From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: don't-know values for file-attributes? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:29:40 +0100 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84u1futjyj.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043699551 29672 80.91.224.249 (27 Jan 2003 20:32:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18dFvi-0007iR-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:32:30 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18dG04-0008VD-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dFwR-0008QV-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:33:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dFw1-0008Fz-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:32:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dFvh-00086F-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:32:30 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dFuA-0007cb-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:30:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18dFsT-0007T4-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:29:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18dFsS-0007Sq-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:29:08 +0100 Original-Lines: 9 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090015 (Oort Gnus v0.15) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fS1sxa1T7p6qopKGvrIgWE/qkBE= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11143 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11143 When a filename handler doesn't know the ctime, mtime, or atime of a file, what should file-attributes return? Ange-FTP seems to say that (0 0) is the way to express this. But WIBNI it was said explicitly in the documentation? A similar problem arises for the other return values for file-attributes, and also for other file operations. -- Ambibibentists unite!