From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nyc4bos@aol.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10829: 24.0.93; Error sending bug report -- default SMTP username Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: <84ty2bk9mz.fsf@aol.com> References: <84sjia49wz.fsf@STATION03.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <871upp9azh.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1330394018 8865 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2012 01:53:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 01:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10829@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 28 02:53:37 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S2CFz-00040o-Sr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:52:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <871upp9azh.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:15:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (windows-nt) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1330393924; bh=cb7kGGYST9FQ2dHF+JoJBPwlmsOKaq7LqD2LQbby5JE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KHys+P9HVAvD3SBRJy5uHibDHZavi9ruhJZ1xxNGAYN7QpeRIdEoUahw+JwM0Quh7 QivWJxegJzOqgnjWBbzgdOBrh/0TOEZccU18cT4VnYfg9QVHHfTzXp7mR3ZBDRl9bj y/0SXTyND5c61wpKlS7nlHYVoBBPnU6hOtQqdwB0= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:367011744:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29034f4c33440294 X-AOL-IP: 173.13.86.254 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:57339 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > nyc4bos@aol.com writes: > >> When trying to send a bug report with a valid email address that is >> NOT part of (user-login-name), I get a prompt that gives the default >> SMTP username as the value of (user-login-name). > > Your SMTP server requires a user name and password to send email, I take > it? Yes. > >> If a default is specified, I had expected it to be from the valid >> "From: " address I provided, not the value of (user-login-name). > > I don't think the bit before the "@" sign in the From header is any more > likely to be the user name you have to give to the SMTP server than > (user-login-name) is. In my experience, when required to authenticate to an SMTP server, the user part (the left of the "@" sign) is almost certainly the username to give SMTP server. > > Emacs just guesses here, and I think (user-login-name) is a perfectly > valid guess. So I'm closing this bug report. When creating a bug report (`report-emacs-bug') using (run)emacs -Q, Emacs has already "just guessed" when it fills in the "From: " address: From: @.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me So when the user explicitly fills in their valid email address, why should Emacs override the user with a default of its own? Why shouldn't Emacs just accept what the user has explicitly typed by default (and allow in prompt for a different user name)? IOW, exactly the opposite to what you have changed it to (put in its own default causing the user to have change it yet again). This is a regression from (at least) Emacs 23, without any overriding reason that I can discern. Could you please reconsider? I believe there should at least be some discussion about this regression.