From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: M-TAB already used by KDE Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:32:24 +0100 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84ptry4g6v.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <3dfe3ea4.1245206@news.cis.dfn.de> <84d6o1ove6.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <1my96ndvtq.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> <84n0n3cbvn.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <1mr8cfq9uv.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040291300 16177 80.91.224.249 (19 Dec 2002 09:48:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OxHv-0004Cn-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:48:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OxFF-0000PC-01 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:45:33 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.DE!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 35 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de (134.91.35.216) Original-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1040291058 2270200 134.91.35.216 (16 [73968]) User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.93 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bWOXCEvpaRMYTN2CxszH2NjkBzs= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.emacs:76538 gnu.emacs.help:108286 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4817 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4817 Fredrik Staxeng writes: > kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes: > >>Really? Hm. I've seen some Alt bindings here and there... > > I have only seen iso-transl. But binding Alt instead of Meta assumes that > Alt is distinct from Meta. Of course! > The best any program can do, is to use only one modifier, and make both > Alt and Meta invoke that modifier. Of course, there should be a way to > use the full capability of _any_ keyboard. But because of the historical > mistakes, it can't be done "out-of-the-box". Yes, you've said that before. I understand. But I'm not sure if I agree. I have to think about it further. > If the default of x-meta-keysym is '(meta alt), then I am happy. Now that you bring it up, it would be a good idea to allow lists instead of just symbols. But that isn't implemented yet. > A minor quibble: I think that the x-alt-keysym is superfluous, > and only serves to perpetrate the confusion. =8-{ The alt, hyper, meta, super modifiers are very similar, only the degree of usage differs. So why would any of these variables be superfluous? -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)