Getting back C-m instead of RET

Getting back C-m instead of RET

[xxx]

Hi,

The Gnus tutorial says I should type

        C-c C-m f

to attach a file to an outgoing email, but when I type the C-m, emacs
acts like it's a RETURN. How can I change this ? and won't changing it
adversely affect my emacs ?

Thanks,
Joao

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Benjamin Lewis]

On 12 Nov 2002, joao@teaser.fr wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The Gnus tutorial says I should type
> 
> C-c C-m f
> 
> to attach a file to an outgoing email, but when I type the C-m, emacs
> acts like it's a RETURN. How can I change this ? and won't changing it
> adversely affect my emacs ?

C-c <RET> f also works.  Or it does for me, anyway.  C-m is the newline
character, I believe.

-- 
Benjamin Lewis

Pohl's law:
	Nothing is so good that somebody, somewhere, will not hate it.

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Michael Slass]

xxx <joao@teaser.fr> writes:

>Hi,
>
>The Gnus tutorial says I should type
>
>        C-c C-m f
>
>to attach a file to an outgoing email, but when I type the C-m, emacs
>acts like it's a RETURN. How can I change this ? and won't changing it
>adversely affect my emacs ?
>
>Thanks,
>Joao
>

I'm not sure where that is, but I believe the keystroke (from the
article compostion buffer) is

M-m f


That's META-m followed by f

-- 
Mike Slass

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Benjamin Lewis]

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Michael Slass wrote:

> xxx <joao@teaser.fr> writes:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Gnus tutorial says I should type
>> 
>> C-c C-m f
>> 
>> to attach a file to an outgoing email, but when I type the C-m, emacs
>> acts like it's a RETURN. How can I change this ? and won't changing it
>> adversely affect my emacs ?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joao
>> 
> 
> I'm not sure where that is, but I believe the keystroke (from the
> article compostion buffer) is
> 
> M-m f
> 
> 
> That's META-m followed by f

M-m is bound by default to `back-to-indentation', which moves point to the
first non-whitespace character on the line.

If C-c C-m f or C-c RET f don't work for you, try C-c C-a

-- 
Benjamin Lewis

Pohl's law:
	Nothing is so good that somebody, somewhere, will not hate it.

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[joao]

Michael Slass <miknrene@drizzle.com> writes:

> I'm not sure where that is, but I believe the keystroke (from the
> article compostion buffer) is
> 
> M-m f
> 
> 
> That's META-m followed by f
> 
> -- 
> Mike Slass


Yep, that's it ! Problem solved, thanks.

With C-c RET f, what happens is the RET puts me back into the buffer and
the 'f' just gets inserted. M-m f is just what I needed. Thanks again.

Joao

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Michael Slass]

joao <joao@teaser.fr> writes:

>
>
>Yep, that's it ! Problem solved, thanks.
>
>With C-c RET f, what happens is the RET puts me back into the buffer and
>the 'f' just gets inserted. M-m f is just what I needed. Thanks again.
>
>Joao

No sweat.  I learned this from the label next to the menu option
MML-->attach--file

Not the easiest place to find -- I'm pretty sure a co-worker pointed
it out to me.  The menus in gnus have *many* of the useful commands in
them, and can help you find the keybinding and command names.

-- 
Mike Slass

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Kai Großjohann]

joao <joao@teaser.fr> writes:

> Michael Slass <miknrene@drizzle.com> writes:
>
>> I'm not sure where that is, but I believe the keystroke (from the
>> article compostion buffer) is
>> 
>> M-m f
>
> Yep, that's it ! Problem solved, thanks.

The key has changed recently.  It seems your documentation and the
code were not in sync.

The current key is C-c C-m, it used to be M-m.

Is there a hint somewhere in the documentation that you were reading
which version of Gnus it applies to?

kai
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Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[joao]

kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> The key has changed recently.  It seems your documentation and the
> code were not in sync.
> 
> The current key is C-c C-m, it used to be M-m.
> 
> Is there a hint somewhere in the documentation that you were reading
> which version of Gnus it applies to?

The gnus-tutorial, in "Getting Started on Unix", says M-x gnus-version
should say something like v5.8.8.

I got the tutorial off the web (forgot the site, sorry, found it through
google), accessed the files from CVS, and I'm reading the info files (I
believe I did a 'makeinfo' or something). This was like a week ago. Hope
this helps you.

However : the M-m f suits me fine, otherwise I'd have to go back to my
original question of how to enter the C-m. As I'm typing this, if I try
C-c C-m, my keyboard beeps. Better still, I try it under C-h k, it says
"C-c RET" is undefined. See, I *can't* use C-m that way.
 
So. I don't know what to make of this. Thanks all for helping me.

Joao

> kai
> -- 
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Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Benjamin Lewis]

On 13 Nov 2002, joao@teaser.fr wrote:

> kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> 
>> The key has changed recently.  It seems your documentation and the
>> code were not in sync.
>> 
>> The current key is C-c C-m, it used to be M-m.
>> 
>> Is there a hint somewhere in the documentation that you were reading
>> which version of Gnus it applies to?
> 
> The gnus-tutorial, in "Getting Started on Unix", says M-x gnus-version
> should say something like v5.8.8.
> 
> I got the tutorial off the web (forgot the site, sorry, found it through
> google), accessed the files from CVS, and I'm reading the info files (I
> believe I did a 'makeinfo' or something). This was like a week ago. Hope
> this helps you.
> 
> However : the M-m f suits me fine, otherwise I'd have to go back to my
> original question of how to enter the C-m. As I'm typing this, if I try
> C-c C-m, my keyboard beeps. Better still, I try it under C-h k, it says
> "C-c RET" is undefined. See, I *can't* use C-m that way.
> 
> So. I don't know what to make of this. Thanks all for helping me.

What does M-x gnus-version RET say?

-- 
Benjamin Lewis

Amoebit:
        Amoeba/rabbit cross; it can multiply and divide at the same time.

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[joao]

Benjamin Lewis <bclewis@cs.sfu.ca> writes:

> 
> What does M-x gnus-version RET say?

Gnus v5.8.8

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Benjamin Lewis]

On 13 Nov 2002, joao@teaser.fr wrote:

> Benjamin Lewis <bclewis@cs.sfu.ca> writes:
> 
>> 
>> What does M-x gnus-version RET say?
> 
> Gnus v5.8.8

From the GNUS-NEWS file, under "* Changes in Oort Gnus":

,---
| ** MML (Mime compose) prefix changed from `M-m' to `C-c C-m'.
| This change was made to avoid conflict with the standard binding of
| `back-to-indentation', which is also useful in message mode.
`---

The tutorial you were reading must have been updated for Oort, even if it
claimed otherwise.

-- 
Benjamin Lewis

Amoebit:
        Amoeba/rabbit cross; it can multiply and divide at the same time.

Re: Getting back C-m instead of RET

[Kai Großjohann]

joao <joao@teaser.fr> writes:

> However : the M-m f suits me fine, otherwise I'd have to go back to my
> original question of how to enter the C-m. As I'm typing this, if I try
> C-c C-m, my keyboard beeps. Better still, I try it under C-h k, it says
> "C-c RET" is undefined. See, I *can't* use C-m that way.

The behavior you are describing is the normal behavior for your
version of Gnus.  The key sequence C-c C-m has no binding, so it is
"undefined".

(Emacs prints C-m as RET.)

kai
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