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From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann)
Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK!
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:21:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84isty429v.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: vd0vfxydxmv.fsf@kogs31.informatik.uni-hamburg.de

Sven Utcke <utcke+news@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> writes:

> Oh dear.  I didn't know there where any scrollbars out there (except
> in MS-land, that is) which did _not_ implement this very usefull
> behaviour.

Heh :-)

FWIW, the newest innovation in scrollbar land that I can remember at
the moment is to cluster the up and down arrows.  You know, normally a
scrollbar looks like this:

^
|
...lots of lines omitted...
|
v

And you click on the little "v" at the bottom and hold down the mouse
button and whoops! you have scrolled too far.  Then you get to run
the mouse from the very bottom of the screen to near the top of the
screen, have to hit the little "^" to scroll back a couple of lines.

Now, the innovation consists of making the scrollbar look like this:

^
|
...deleted lines...
|
^
v

That way, you don't have to travel so far from "v" to (the bottom) "^".

Isn't innovation wonderful?

I still have fond memories of the OpenLook (OpenWindows? XView?)
scrollbar.  There the thumb had three fields, the middle one for
dragging, the top and bottom for scrolling linewise.  And you could
click above or below the thumb/slider to scroll pagewise.

And you didn't have to move your mouse after clicking any of these!
The mouse pointer was warped to the right spot so you could keep on
clicking!  Bliss!

(It's not as nice as the Xaw scrollbar, but the Xaw scrollbar really
wants three mouse buttons, so the OpenLook thing might be good for
Macintoshes :-)
-- 
A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-01 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3339.1048022690.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-19 20:26 ` New Emacs with GTK! kgold
2003-03-19 20:47   ` Peter Lee
2003-03-19 20:53   ` Alan Shutko
2003-03-20  5:57   ` Miles Bader
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3402.1048139855.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-22 18:03     ` Michael Powe
2003-03-23  9:55       ` Niels Freimann
2003-03-23 16:08         ` Daniel R. Anderson
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3520.1048436082.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-24  2:14           ` Jason Earl
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3512.1048413524.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 11:18         ` Edward O'Connor
2003-03-23 12:00           ` Niels Freimann
2003-03-23 17:06             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3514.1048420980.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 14:17             ` A. L. Meyers
2003-03-23 16:09               ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3519.1048435867.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 18:09                 ` Hubert Chan
2003-03-23 22:01                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-03-24  1:24                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24  7:26                   ` Miles Bader
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3552.1048490983.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-25  0:11                     ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25  0:57                       ` Jesper Harder
2003-03-25 10:42                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-25 15:48                 ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-25 16:16                 ` François Fleuret
2003-04-18  4:05               ` David Combs
2003-04-18  7:18                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-19 20:00                   ` Michael Powe
2003-04-19 20:01                   ` Michael Powe
2003-04-18  4:13               ` David Combs
2003-04-18  9:55                 ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4867.1050659882.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-18 11:06                   ` Marco Parrone
2003-04-18 11:23                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-18 13:25                     ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.4874.1050672434.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-18 14:38                       ` Alan Shutko
2003-04-18 14:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-18 15:31                       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-23 15:56             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-25 16:26             ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-30  6:00               ` Michael Powe
2003-03-31 20:36                 ` John Russell
2003-03-31 20:52                   ` David Kastrup
2003-03-31 21:14                     ` John Russell
2003-03-31 21:20                       ` David Kastrup
2003-03-31 22:39                         ` John Russell
2003-03-31 21:01                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-31 22:04                     ` David Kastrup
2003-04-01 12:27                       ` Sven Utcke
2003-04-01 12:52                         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-01 15:51                           ` Sven Utcke
2003-04-01 16:21                             ` Kai Großjohann [this message]
2003-04-01 13:49                         ` David Kastrup
2003-04-01 16:29                       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-02  1:59                         ` Miles Bader
2003-04-01 17:19                       ` Ole Laursen
2003-03-23 16:10         ` Michael Powe
2003-03-23 19:08           ` Alan Shutko
2003-03-24  0:46             ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24  2:17               ` Jason Earl
2003-03-24 23:52                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25 15:58                 ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-25 17:28                   ` Daniel R. Anderson
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3619.1048613765.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-26  7:27                     ` Tim X
2003-03-26 10:49                       ` Ed Cavazos
2003-03-26 16:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-01 12:23                       ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-26 13:34                     ` Garglemonster
2003-04-01 12:13                     ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-23 20:33           ` Daniel Jensen
2003-03-24  1:01             ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24 13:42               ` Bijan Soleymani
2003-03-25 12:25               ` David Kastrup
2003-03-30  5:52                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25 16:38           ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-25 16:07         ` Hallvard B Furuseth
2003-03-23  2:20 Nick Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-18 21:20 Hans Larsen
2003-03-04  8:56 New Emacs with GTK? Peter Wu
2003-03-04  9:50 ` David Kastrup
2003-03-04 13:27   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-12  7:16 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-03-13  3:59   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13  6:00     ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-13  6:23       ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13  8:37         ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-15 18:14           ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 11:33             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-13  7:58       ` Yongtao Yang
2003-03-13  8:30         ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-13 16:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-03-13  8:38   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13 10:58     ` David Kastrup
2003-03-14  2:56       ` Peter Wu
2003-03-14 10:10         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-15 17:52           ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 11:56             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-15 17:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-03-16  2:10               ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 14:03                 ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-19  3:54                   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-16  2:34               ` Peter Wu

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