From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36729: 27.0.50; Unclear total in directory listing Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 12:03:39 +0200 Message-ID: <84AFB7F6-D925-4552-A165-927996C1C7B6@acm.org> References: <048FD91B-CDA0-4444-8F6F-C5B2F5C595CD@acm.org> <83k1ceusn1.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgr2887n.fsf@gmx.net> <871rjyn5hn.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu2hen02.fsf@gmx.net> <87r1qa4pct.fsf@gnus.org> <838scia2zu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36775"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , stephen.berman@gmx.net, 36729@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 07 12:04:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ6Is-0009NE-Iy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 12:04:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37322 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ6Ir-0003Tc-Kt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 06:04:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ6Ik-0003Sa-4G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 06:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ6Ij-0003rK-Ra for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 06:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ6Ij-00027U-OH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 06:04:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36729 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 36729-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36729.16020650348127 (code B ref 36729); Wed, 07 Oct 2020 10:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36729) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2020 10:03:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55298 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ6Ib-000271-LJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 06:03:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail1434c50.megamailservers.eu ([91.136.14.34]:41416 helo=mail263c50.megamailservers.eu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQ6IX-00026e-NX for 36729@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 06:03:52 -0400 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1602065022; bh=Zs17tUf4gyEarK5Ltp8Rk7R5JC2VVEPjtkLTwbk7+5Y=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=p6BpmdOritSgW8bihTK5Zb7CgsU06V8mF+7y9veG7rUGpLFtOi2RheCEOdWsTS5/I OWfaAXETwzXwpEPKvpzjVdj0k6HHpQDuFJQGBvNbSWJRed5TzW3daHfjxvHwWdX9NS 5dhOC0wd61fvuSB5PSBKTl7uQGP9s9EkY0qrUjrY= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from stanniol.lan (c-304ee655.032-75-73746f71.bbcust.telenor.se [85.230.78.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail263c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 097A3dQk032741; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 10:03:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: <838scia2zu.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A782F1A.5F7D927E.005B, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=e6d4tph/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=63Z2wlQ1NB3xHpgKFKE71g==:117 a=63Z2wlQ1NB3xHpgKFKE71g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=M51BFTxLslgA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=f7mZUqaJOgNlKgemMuYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_FVE-zBwftR9WsbkzFJk:22 X-Origin-Country: SE X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190010 Archived-At: 7 okt. 2020 kl. 09.50 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > I no longer understand what we are trying to solve here. A bit lost here myself, but it seems that no real progress has been made = and that the original problem (how to display a meaningful 'total' value = in dired) is still at hand. However given the apparent constraints (running an external 'ls' binary = with unclear semantics; uncountable platform variations; user-settable = 'ls' switches; sensitivity to environment variables; localised output; = &c &c) I don't think it can be solved in any reasonable way. I therefore = propose closing the bug as 'wontfix'. Sorry about not thinking it through before reporting it.