From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: I miss ange-ftp ($#@!Tramp) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:34:41 +0100 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <847kf0wzqm.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <7AA5242A-00C4-11D7-9700-0003936772EE@clay-jones.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038299794 29206 80.91.224.249 (26 Nov 2002 08:36:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18GbCq-0007av-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:36:32 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18GbIr-00062N-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:42:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18GbAe-0002nu-00; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 03:34:16 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Gb9U-0001Q2-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 03:33:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Gb9R-0001H7-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 03:33:03 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Gb9Q-0001DU-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 03:33:00 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Gb7M-0007FN-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:30:52 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Gb7L-0007FD-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:30:51 +0100 Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.informatik.uni-duisburg.de Original-X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038299451 27850 134.91.35.216 (26 Nov 2002 08:30:51 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:30:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rTHaHAAMNByYX4OOi+oTPT1r9Pk= Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9677 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9677 Clay Jones writes: > I work in a development environment which does not support secure > copying via any of tramp's protocols. I also do not have decision > making power for implementing these protocols. I have the default > setting for tramp set to ange-ftp "(setq tramp-default-method "ftp")" > in my .emacs file, but I routinely receive errors like: > > Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, nil > > when trying to open/save files. I've spent a lot of time just trying > to get back to an environment where I can open and save files remotely > via FTP. Any suggestions? Oh, boy, this is bad. I got similar reports previously but didn't spend too much time on them because I thought it's not Tramp at fault. But let me try to change this. First of all, getting back to Ange-FTP involves setting file-name-handler-alist to the right value. The right line is still in ange-ftp.el, only commented out. So you want to remove the Tramp entries from file-name-handler-alist and put in the Ange-FTP entries instead. Secondly, could you produce a backtrace (loading the *.el files instead of the *.elc files to avoid bytecode)? Maybe I can see this time what's going wrong. kai -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)