From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:55:43 +0100 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <843cowcyxs.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <84bs3xsyi8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam> <5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam> <5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <111220022053507599%ajanta@no.spam> <84k7ifo3s2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <121220021324043990%ajanta@no.spam> <121220021419243187%anil@null.invalid> <161220021454522181%ajanta@no.spam> <84pts1nfs5.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <171220021036551390%ajanta@no.spam> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040151935 22904 80.91.224.249 (17 Dec 2002 19:05:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ON25-0005xH-00 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:05:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OMxc-0003iz-04 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:00:56 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pd951ff4e.dip.t-dialin.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd951ff4e.dip.t-dialin.net (217.81.255.78) Original-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1040151551 1001004 217.81.255.78 (16 [73968]) User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.93 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:H6YmMKecaJf6diAbgFnpecqkPhw= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:349134 gnu.emacs.help:108229 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4758 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4758 Ajanta writes: > Yes I do understand that this does not come standard with unix. The > discussion was about the desirability for it to be so. There was a > suggestion that an extention of ls would be a logical choice; the > system would of course have to log/record some extra information in > addition to what it already does . However, some people felt this was a > good opportunity to start arguing over the word "log". Yes, indeed. Alas, the Unix crowd appears to follow the Perl philosophy `There is more than one way to do it', and hence, different Unices have different ways. Some Linux distributions have rpm, others have dpkg and apt-get. FreeBSD has pkg_add and friends. Solaris also has something named pkgfoo, for some value of foo. MacOS has fink, amongst others. Since MacOS is based on FreeBSD (or is it NetBSD or OpenBSD) in some way, maybe MacOS also uses pkg_add and friends? Of course, these tools only do something if they are actually used. Originally, several files and directories were mentioned; it appears that at least two versions of Emacs were installed -- one in /usr and one in /usr/local. Of course, I have no idea which system maintains the files. -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)