From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Wiesner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18077: 24.4.50; Info-quoted face should inherit default Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:33:52 +0200 Message-ID: <843E1D15-BCED-4BE3-B227-D6793FDA74F0@lunaryorn.com> References: <8761ipn711.fsf@lunaryorn.fritz.box> <9C6E94EB-5A94-49E6-BCE4-A08FCB6830A6@lunaryorn.com> <1D8FB3F1-0916-4C33-8C9D-A9C91774682D@lunaryorn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406536467 24945 80.91.229.3 (28 Jul 2014 08:34:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18077@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 28 10:34:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNt-0000pb-LI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:34:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38293 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNt-0007tW-8k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNk-0007lt-HN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:34:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNf-0006Za-ND for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44819) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNf-0006ZG-Km for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNe-0002mA-FA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sebastian Wiesner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18077 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18077-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18077.140653644110663 (code B ref 18077); Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2014 08:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNc-0002lu-FW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: from vega.uberspace.de ([95.143.172.245]:47457) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XBgNZ-0002lh-KB for 18077@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 14652 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2014 08:33:55 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (HELO lunaryorn-air.fritz.box) (127.0.0.1) by vega.uberspace.de with SMTP; 28 Jul 2014 08:33:55 -0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91872 Archived-At: Am 28.07.2014 um 01:23 schrieb Stefan Monnier = : >>> The expectations of someone reading online documentation. Most = online >>> documentation I can find don't use bold, italics, or colors to >>> distinguish "technical elements" like those that usually appear in >>> Info-quoted face. >> Such documentation also uses proportional fonts for standard body = text. >=20 > Indeed. But currently, we can't do that very well because refilling > Info text is between hard and impossible (there would be other = hurdles, > but that's the most immediate one). So Info is obviously *very* different from other online documentation, = and we should probably not use other online documentation, that is not = subject to these limitations, as a guideline for how Info mode should = look like. We can=92t entirely match the expectations of readers of = these other documentations anyway, because the constraints of the Info = format won=92t allow to make Info documentation really look like other = documentation. At best, we=92ll have some remote similarity, and at = worst, Info will look much worse (as it did in this case). IOW, Info isn=92t HTML, and we shouldn=92t pretend that it was=85 my 2 = cents. Anyhow, the face is customizable, so it=92s probably not an issue of = importance, since anyone can customize it to have a sane style on their = system, and we are used to customize Emacs anyway. I do not know enough about font families and font style to discuss what = fonts could be used as an alternative for Courier for use in the = Info-quoted face, so if that is the solution you=92d like to have, I = can=92t help anymore.=