* bug#6604: 23.2; Crashes in GC on MS-Windows
@ 2010-07-10 15:52 Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-11 12:21 ` Lennart Borgman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2010-07-10 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: 6604
Emacs 23.2 started crashing on me a few days ago. So far it crashed
twice in a couple of days. Both times the crash is inside GC, at the
same place. I attach one such backtrace below; it is not a GDB
backtrace because I wasn't running under GDB at the time.
I have no built a non-optimized binary and run it under GDB, so I
could debug it when it crashes. But if someone sees similar crashes,
please post the data.
Here's the backtrace:
emacs.exe caused an Access Violation at location 010682ef in module emacs.exe Reading from location ac0003e4.
Registers:
eax=00000150 ebx=ac000150 ecx=0000002a edx=ac000000 esi=0000007c edi=00000001
eip=010682ef esp=0082cb10 ebp=0082cc48 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000202
Call stack:
010682EF emacs.exe:010682EF Fgarbage_collect alloc.c:5941
...
int this_free = 0;
for (i = 0; i < lim; i++)
> if (!FLOAT_MARKED_P (&fblk->floats[i]))
{
this_free++;
...
0100C3CB emacs.exe:0100C3CB Ffuncall eval.c:2958
...
||
(!NILP (Vmemory_full) && consing_since_gc > memory_full_cons_threshold))
> Fgarbage_collect ();
if (++lisp_eval_depth > max_lisp_eval_depth)
...
0100A249 emacs.exe:0100A249 internal_condition_case_2 eval.c:1590
...
val = (*bfun) (nargs, args);
> catchlist = c.next;
handlerlist = h.next;
return val;
...
01013933 emacs.exe:01013933 safe_call xdisp.c:2387
...
safe_eval_handler);
UNGCPRO;
> val = unbind_to (count, val);
}
...
0101396E emacs.exe:0101396E safe_call1 xdisp.c:2405
...
args[1] = arg;
return safe_call (2, args);
> }
static Lisp_Object Qeval;
...
0101398A emacs.exe:0101398A safe_eval xdisp.c:2413
...
{
return safe_call1 (Qeval, sexpr);
> }
/* Call function FN with one argument ARG.
...
0102A5E1 emacs.exe:0102A5E1 display_mode_element xdisp.c:17666
...
Lisp_Object spec;
spec = safe_eval (XCAR (XCDR (elt)));
> n += display_mode_element (it, depth, field_width - n,
precision - n, spec, props,
risky);
...
0102A79B emacs.exe:0102A79B display_mode_element xdisp.c:17755
...
props, risky);
elt = XCDR (elt);
> len++;
if ((len & 1) == 0)
halftail = XCDR (halftail);
...
0102A79B emacs.exe:0102A79B display_mode_element xdisp.c:17755
...
props, risky);
elt = XCDR (elt);
> len++;
if ((len & 1) == 0)
halftail = XCDR (halftail);
...
0102B89D emacs.exe:0102B89D display_mode_line xdisp.c:17258
...
record_unwind_save_match_data ();
display_mode_element (&it, 0, 0, 0, format, Qnil, 0);
> pop_kboard ();
unbind_to (count, Qnil);
...
0102BA94 emacs.exe:0102BA94 display_mode_lines xdisp.c:17201
...
/* Select mode line face based on the real selected window. */
> display_mode_line (w, CURRENT_MODE_LINE_FACE_ID_3 (sel_w, sel_w, w),
current_buffer->mode_line_format);
++n;
...
0102D059 emacs.exe:0102D059 redisplay_window xdisp.c:13832
...
/* If mode line height has changed, arrange for a thorough
immediate redisplay using the correct mode line height. */
> if (WINDOW_WANTS_MODELINE_P (w)
&& CURRENT_MODE_LINE_HEIGHT (w) != DESIRED_MODE_LINE_HEIGHT (w))
{
...
0102E937 emacs.exe:0102E937 redisplay_window_0 xdisp.c:12239
...
if (displayed_buffer->display_error_modiff < BUF_MODIFF (displayed_buffer))
redisplay_window (window, 0);
> return Qnil;
}
...
01009ED5 emacs.exe:01009ED5 internal_condition_case_1 eval.c:1539
...
val = (*bfun) (arg);
> catchlist = c.next;
handlerlist = h.next;
return val;
...
0101E049 emacs.exe:0101E049 redisplay_windows xdisp.c:12217
...
/* Use list_of_error, not Qerror, so that
we catch only errors and don't run the debugger. */
> internal_condition_case_1 (redisplay_window_0, window,
list_of_error,
redisplay_window_error);
...
0101E006 emacs.exe:0101E006 redisplay_windows xdisp.c:12211
...
redisplay_windows (w->hchild);
else if (!NILP (w->vchild))
> redisplay_windows (w->vchild);
else if (!NILP (w->buffer))
{
...
01030678 emacs.exe:01030678 redisplay_internal xdisp.c:11789
...
if (FRAME_VISIBLE_P (f) && !FRAME_OBSCURED_P (f))
> redisplay_windows (FRAME_ROOT_WINDOW (f));
/* The X error handler may have deleted that frame. */
...
01030E68 emacs.exe:01030E68 redisplay_preserve_echo_area xdisp.c:12038
...
display_last_displayed_message_p = 1;
redisplay_internal (1);
> display_last_displayed_message_p = 0;
}
else
...
0109E9B9 emacs.exe:0109E9B9 Fredisplay dispnew.c:6684
...
specbind (Qredisplay_dont_pause, Qt);
redisplay_preserve_echo_area (2);
> unbind_to (count, Qnil);
return Qt;
}
...
0100C617 emacs.exe:0100C617 Ffuncall eval.c:3024
...
goto done;
case 1:
> val = (*XSUBR (fun)->function) (internal_args[0]);
goto done;
case 2:
...
0111E156 emacs.exe:0111E156 Fbyte_code bytecode.c:680
...
}
#endif
> TOP = Ffuncall (op + 1, &TOP);
AFTER_POTENTIAL_GC ();
break;
...
0100C012 emacs.exe:0100C012 funcall_lambda eval.c:3216
...
}
> return unbind_to (count, val);
}
...
0100C3F6 emacs.exe:0100C3F6 Ffuncall eval.c:3093
...
done:
CHECK_CONS_LIST ();
> lisp_eval_depth--;
if (backtrace.debug_on_exit)
val = call_debugger (Fcons (Qexit, Fcons (val, Qnil)));
...
0111E156 emacs.exe:0111E156 Fbyte_code bytecode.c:680
...
}
#endif
> TOP = Ffuncall (op + 1, &TOP);
AFTER_POTENTIAL_GC ();
break;
...
0100C012 emacs.exe:0100C012 funcall_lambda eval.c:3216
...
}
> return unbind_to (count, val);
}
...
0100C3F6 emacs.exe:0100C3F6 Ffuncall eval.c:3093
...
done:
CHECK_CONS_LIST ();
> lisp_eval_depth--;
if (backtrace.debug_on_exit)
val = call_debugger (Fcons (Qexit, Fcons (val, Qnil)));
...
0100CE1D emacs.exe:0100CE1D Fapply eval.c:2504
...
/* By convention, the caller needs to gcpro Ffuncall's args. */
RETURN_UNGCPRO (Ffuncall (gcpro1.nvars, funcall_args));
> }
/* Run hook variables in various ways. */
...
0100C6B4 emacs.exe:0100C6B4 Ffuncall eval.c:3005
...
if (XSUBR (fun)->max_args == MANY)
{
> val = (*XSUBR (fun)->function) (numargs, args + 1);
goto done;
}
...
0111E156 emacs.exe:0111E156 Fbyte_code bytecode.c:680
...
}
#endif
> TOP = Ffuncall (op + 1, &TOP);
AFTER_POTENTIAL_GC ();
break;
...
0100BBE5 emacs.exe:0100BBE5 Feval eval.c:2352
...
goto done;
case 3:
> val = (*XSUBR (fun)->function) (argvals[0], argvals[1],
argvals[2]);
goto done;
...
0100D667 emacs.exe:0100D667 internal_lisp_condition_case eval.c:1435
...
handlerlist = &h;
> val = Feval (bodyform);
catchlist = c.next;
handlerlist = h.next;
...
0111E96B emacs.exe:0111E96B Fbyte_code bytecode.c:870
...
body = POP;
BEFORE_POTENTIAL_GC ();
> TOP = internal_lisp_condition_case (TOP, body, handlers);
AFTER_POTENTIAL_GC ();
break;
...
0100C012 emacs.exe:0100C012 funcall_lambda eval.c:3216
...
}
> return unbind_to (count, val);
}
...
0100C3F6 emacs.exe:0100C3F6 Ffuncall eval.c:3093
...
done:
CHECK_CONS_LIST ();
> lisp_eval_depth--;
if (backtrace.debug_on_exit)
val = call_debugger (Fcons (Qexit, Fcons (val, Qnil)));
...
0100CA19 emacs.exe:0100CA19 call1 eval.c:2811
...
RETURN_UNGCPRO (Ffuncall (2, &fn));
#endif /* not NO_ARG_ARRAY */
> }
/* Call function fn with 2 arguments arg1, arg2 */
...
010552BF emacs.exe:010552BF timer_check keyboard.c:4713
...
call1 (Qtimer_event_handler, chosen_timer);
> Vdeactivate_mark = old_deactivate_mark;
timers_run++;
unbind_to (count, Qnil);
...
010553D8 emacs.exe:010553D8 readable_events keyboard.c:3698
...
if (flags & READABLE_EVENTS_DO_TIMERS_NOW)
> timer_check (1);
/* If the buffer contains only FOCUS_IN_EVENT events, and
...
0105ABDB emacs.exe:0105ABDB get_input_pending keyboard.c:7038
...
{
/* First of all, have we already counted some input? */
> *addr = (!NILP (Vquit_flag) || readable_events (flags));
/* If input is being read as it arrives, and we have none, there is none. */
...
0105AC8B emacs.exe:0105AC8B detect_input_pending_run_timers keyboard.c:10707
...
if (!input_pending)
> get_input_pending (&input_pending, READABLE_EVENTS_DO_TIMERS_NOW);
if (old_timers_run != timers_run && do_display)
...
01046756 emacs.exe:01046756 wait_reading_process_output process.c:5022
...
int leave = 0;
> if (detect_input_pending_run_timers (do_display))
{
swallow_events (do_display);
...
0105C35F emacs.exe:0105C35F read_char keyboard.c:4137
...
wait_reading_process_output (0, 0, -1, 1, Qnil, NULL, 0);
> if (!interrupt_input && kbd_fetch_ptr == kbd_store_ptr)
/* Pass 1 for EXPECT since we just waited to have input. */
read_avail_input (1);
...
0105E242 emacs.exe:0105E242 read_key_sequence keyboard.c:9515
...
(Lisp_Object *) submaps, last_nonmenu_event,
&used_mouse_menu, NULL);
> if ((INTEGERP (key) && XINT (key) == -2) /* wrong_kboard_jmpbuf */
/* When switching to a new tty (with a new keyboard),
read_char returns the new buffer, rather than -2
...
01060287 emacs.exe:01060287 command_loop_1 keyboard.c:1643
...
/* Read next key sequence; i gets its length. */
> i = read_key_sequence (keybuf, sizeof keybuf / sizeof keybuf[0],
Qnil, 0, 1, 1);
...
0100A16A emacs.exe:0100A16A internal_condition_case eval.c:1491
...
val = (*bfun) ();
> catchlist = c.next;
handlerlist = h.next;
return val;
...
0105381A emacs.exe:0105381A command_loop_2 keyboard.c:1360
...
do
> val = internal_condition_case (command_loop_1, Qerror, cmd_error);
while (!NILP (val));
...
0100A09F emacs.exe:0100A09F internal_catch eval.c:1226
...
/* Call FUNC. */
if (! _setjmp (c.jmp))
> c.val = (*func) (arg);
/* Throw works by a longjmp that comes right here. */
...
01053627 emacs.exe:01053627 command_loop keyboard.c:1343
...
/* End of file in -batch run causes exit here. */
> if (noninteractive)
Fkill_emacs (Qt);
}
...
010536C0 emacs.exe:010536C0 recursive_edit_1 keyboard.c:955
...
val = command_loop ();
> if (EQ (val, Qt))
Fsignal (Qquit, Qnil);
/* Handle throw from read_minibuf when using minibuffer
...
010537E1 emacs.exe:010537E1 Frecursive_edit keyboard.c:1017
...
recursive_edit_1 ();
> return unbind_to (count, Qnil);
}
...
01002E2F emacs.exe:01002E2F main emacs.c:1836
...
/* NOTREACHED */
return 0;
> }
/* Sort the args so we can find the most important ones
...
0100124B emacs.exe:0100124B
01001298 emacs.exe:01001298
7C816D4F kernel32.dll:7C816D4F RegisterWaitForInputIdle
In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2010-07-10 on HOME-C4E4A596F7
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt'
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: ENU
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: cp1255
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Mail
Minor modes in effect:
flyspell-mode: t
desktop-save-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
display-time-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
temp-buffer-resize-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
abbrev-mode: t
Recent input:
y y C-x b I N <tab> <return> <C-next> <C-next> <C-next>
<C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <C-next>
<C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <C-prior> <C-prior> <M-end>
C-x b * M e s <tab> <return> <prior> C-x k <return>
C-x 5 b * i <tab> 1 > <return> <switch-frame> C-x 5
b x d <tab> <return> C-x C-f C-g <switch-frame> <help-echo>
M-1 g <M-backspace> d a t <tab> m a i l . n e w <return>
d d SPC d d d d d d d C-x C-s r <switch-frame> <switch-frame>
<help-echo> M-~ <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<switch-frame> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> C-x C-f
d : / u s <tab> <M-backspace> g n <tab> e m a <tab>
- 2 3 <tab> <tab> x <tab> e m <tab> 2 / s r <tab> <M-backspace>
e m <tab> <M-backspace> <M-backspace> <M-backspace>
<backspace> _ c <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <M-backspace> <M-backspace> b z <tab> e
m <tab> e m <tab> e m <tab> . t <tab> <return> C-x
4 f <up> <left> <left> <left> <left> 2 <return> <M-home>
<down> <down> <down> <up> <up> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <M-home> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> M-x c o m
p a <tab> <return> C-x b I N B <tab> - <tab> <return>
<C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <C-next>
<C-next> <C-next> <C-next> <M-end> C-x b I N <tab>
<return> m e m a c s - d e v e l SPC <backspace> <down>
E m a c s SPC 2 3 . 2 SPC c r a s h e s SPC i n SPC
G C <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> M-x r
e p o r t - e m <tab> <return>
Recent messages:
Wrote d:/usr/eli/rmail/INBOX
Computing summary lines...done
9 new messages read
No following nondeleted message
Saving file d:/usr/eli/rmail/INBOX...
Wrote d:/usr/eli/rmail/INBOX
Parsing d:/usr/eli/.mailrc... done
Modification-flag cleared
Making completion list...
Mark set
Load-path shadows:
None found.
Features:
(shadow emacsbug compare-w help-mode view mailalias mailabbrev
sendmail conf-mode newcomment ld-script sh-script executable dired-x
dired-aux dired tcl generic parse-time nxml-uchnm rng-xsd xsd-regexp
rng-cmpct rng-nxml rng-valid rng-loc rng-uri rng-parse nxml-parse
rng-match rng-dt rng-util rng-pttrn nxml-ns nxml-mode nxml-outln
nxml-rap nxml-util nxml-glyph nxml-enc xmltok sgml-mode arc-mode
archive-mode python-21 python gud comint ring vc-cvs make-mode org-wl
org-w3m org-vm org-rmail org-mhe org-mew org-irc org-jsinfo org-infojs
org-html org-exp org-exp-blocks org-agenda org-info org-gnus
org-bibtex org-bbdb org byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile advice help-fns
advice-preload org-footnote org-src org-list org-faces org-compat
org-macs time-date noutline outline easy-mmode jka-compr cc-mode
cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs
regexp-opt info easymenu vc-bzr sha1 hex-util flyspell ispell add-log
rmailsum rmail mail-utils desktop server filecache saveplace generic-x
paren battery time tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel
dos-w32 disp-table ls-lisp w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image
fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select
scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai
tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces
cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env
code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote
make-network-process multi-tty emacs)
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* bug#6604: 23.2; Crashes in GC on MS-Windows
2010-07-10 15:52 bug#6604: 23.2; Crashes in GC on MS-Windows Eli Zaretskii
@ 2010-07-11 12:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-11 13:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman @ 2010-07-11 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 6604
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Emacs 23.2 started crashing on me a few days ago. So far it crashed
> twice in a couple of days. Both times the crash is inside GC, at the
> same place. I attach one such backtrace below; it is not a GDB
> backtrace because I wasn't running under GDB at the time.
>
> I have no built a non-optimized binary and run it under GDB, so I
> could debug it when it crashes. But if someone sees similar crashes,
> please post the data.
I do not know if this is related at all, but I just got a crash of a
type that I have never seen before. This is with my patched version of
Emacs, but I do not think I have any patches that are related to what
I see here.
If there is anything I can investigate more please tell me. (I will
be back later today/tonight.)
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x77c46fa3 in msvcrt!memcpy () from C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
(gdb) bt
#0 0x77c46fa3 in msvcrt!memcpy () from C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
#1 0x011ea61f in face_at_buffer_position (w=0x4b85200, pos=222,
region_beg=0, region_end=0, endptr=0x82f30c, limit=223, mouse=1,
base_face_id=-1) at xfaces.c:6139
#2 0x0106702c in mouse_face_from_buffer_pos (window=79188485,
dpyinfo=0x1405fc0, mouse_charpos=222, start_charpos=210, end_charpos=237,
before_string=45475866, after_string=45475866, display_string=45475866)
at xdisp.c:24067
#3 0x01068e80 in note_mouse_highlight (f=0x3ff7800, x=340, y=232)
at xdisp.c:24900
#4 0x011dae66 in note_mouse_movement (frame=0x3ff7800, msg=0x82f590)
at w32term.c:3055
#5 0x011dd613 in w32_read_socket (terminal=0x2d97900, expected=0,
hold_quit=0x82f600) at w32term.c:4236
#6 0x0100e559 in read_avail_input (expected=0) at keyboard.c:6969
#7 0x0100e463 in gobble_input (expected=0) at keyboard.c:6887
#8 0x0100e416 in get_input_pending (addr=0x13fbb20, flags=1)
at keyboard.c:6850
#9 0x01014af6 in detect_input_pending_run_timers (do_display=1)
at keyboard.c:10515
#10 0x01088be4 in wait_reading_process_output (time_limit=30, microsecs=0,
read_kbd=-1, do_display=1, wait_for_cell=45475866, wait_proc=0x0,
just_wait_proc=0) at process.c:4935
#11 0x010c0670 in sit_for (timeout=120, reading=1, do_display=1)
at dispnew.c:6067
#12 0x010084d1 in read_char (commandflag=1, nmaps=20, maps=0x82f9d0,
prev_event=45475866, used_mouse_menu=0x82fb6c, end_time=0x0)
at keyboard.c:2787
#13 0x01011d56 in read_key_sequence (keybuf=0x82fc60, bufsize=30,
prompt=45475866, dont_downcase_last=0, can_return_switch_frame=1,
fix_current_buffer=1) at keyboard.c:9329
#14 0x010066db in command_loop_1 () at keyboard.c:1618
#15 0x0102083f in internal_condition_case (bfun=0x10063b9 <command_loop_1>,
handlers=45533426, hfun=0x1005daa <cmd_error>) at eval.c:1473
#16 0x0100611e in command_loop_2 (ignore=45475866) at keyboard.c:1341
#17 0x01020330 in internal_catch (tag=45531594,
func=0x10060fb <command_loop_2>, arg=45475866) at eval.c:1217
#18 0x010060d4 in command_loop () at keyboard.c:1320
#19 0x010059c6 in recursive_edit_1 () at keyboard.c:943
#20 0x01005b2a in Frecursive_edit () at keyboard.c:1005
#21 0x01002872 in main (argc=1, argv=0xa94330) at emacs.c:1791
(gdb)
I have added a command to give information about sources which says:
This Emacs was built from sources in bazaar identified as:
Nick 'trunk' info:
revision id: albinus@detlef-20100709192438-t85hy1rf4qo7fgnt
revno: 100765
date: 2010-07-09 21:24:38 +0200
Nick 'emacsw32' (from 'trunk') info:
revision id: lennart.borgman@gmail.com-20100710131757-bm881dgw0t8rqnjf
revno: 99331
date: 2010-07-10 15:17:57 +0200
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* bug#6604: 23.2; Crashes in GC on MS-Windows
2010-07-11 12:21 ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2010-07-11 13:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2010-07-11 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Lennart Borgman; +Cc: 6604
> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:21:00 +0200
> Cc: 6604@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Emacs 23.2 started crashing on me a few days ago. So far it crashed
> > twice in a couple of days. Both times the crash is inside GC, at the
> > same place. I attach one such backtrace below; it is not a GDB
> > backtrace because I wasn't running under GDB at the time.
> >
> > I have no built a non-optimized binary and run it under GDB, so I
> > could debug it when it crashes. But if someone sees similar crashes,
> > please post the data.
>
> I do not know if this is related at all
It isn't.
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