From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: acm@muc.de, ulm@gentoo.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated]
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:10:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zkdh2zfz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:17:32 -0800
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> CC: acm@muc.de, ulm@gentoo.org, drew.adams@oracle.com,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> On 01/20/2012 01:24 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-08/msg00445.html
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-08/msg00447.html
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-08/msg00451.html
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-08/msg00518.html
>
> Those messages are about using ASCII-only email, or having Emacs not
> unexpectedly insert Unicode characters into an ASCII-only document,
> or things of that sort, things that are about Emacs users in general.
> Those are all valid issues, but they don't contradict the basic point
> that it's becoming less important to cater to ASCII-only development
> environments.
Read the whole (longish) thread if you want to understand the context.
The context was precisely what is being discussed here: should we
seriously cater to ASCII-only environments, or can we forget about
them or treat them as second-class citizens. The rest were examples
invoked to make this point or refute it.
> We routinely place more requirements on Emacs developers than on Emacs users,
> and in particular we assume that Emacs developers can routinely view and
> otherwise deal with non-ASCII characters when they need to. This is not
> an assumption we could have made 30 years ago, but it's a safe assumption
> today.
I don't see how the difference between Emacs developers and users
comes into play here. The change of the quotes is proposed for doc
strings, manuals, and other user-visible places.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-21 9:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-18 15:12 TUTORIAL.de updated Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 9:09 ` Martin
2012-01-19 9:37 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 13:02 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 14:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 16:24 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 5:00 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-20 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 15:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 16:20 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 16:41 ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Glenn Morris
2012-01-19 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-19 23:08 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20 3:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-20 6:23 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 7:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-20 8:45 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 22:17 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21 8:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 10:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 11:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 11:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 12:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-22 3:27 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22 3:32 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22 6:30 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22 8:00 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 10:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 13:06 ` James Cloos
2012-01-21 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-01-22 6:30 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22 8:18 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 9:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 10:24 ` Teemu Likonen
2012-01-22 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22 10:54 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 11:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 20:35 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 15:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 16:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-23 7:04 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 12:13 ` quotation marks Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-20 12:44 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 15:51 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-20 18:40 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 12:01 ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] James Cloos
2012-01-22 15:03 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-20 22:34 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21 1:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 1:26 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21 6:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 8:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-21 18:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 19:58 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-21 17:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 17:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-19 18:14 ` TUTORIAL.de updated Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 18:50 ` quotation marks (was: Re: TUTORIAL.de updated) Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 21:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
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