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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: rmh@temple.edu, cschol2112@googlemail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zkd0dx91.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zkd0z11q.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Cc: "Richard M. Heiberger" <rmh@temple.edu>,
>     cschol2112@googlemail.com,
>     emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:03:29 +0900
> 
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
>  > You are right: this is a false alarm.  Let Symantec people know about
>  > it, and ask them to get their act together.
> 
> That's hopeless, especially since we're now up to about 3 maybe 4 such
> false alarms (ie, from different Wolf-Crying Peter companies).
> 
> (1) They'll say "better safe than sorry," and guess what? they're
>     right! (as far as that goes, see (2)).
> 
> (2) It's impossible for anybody but Microsoft to truly get the act
>     together, because the 3rd party virus checkers have to look for
>     "signatures" in the content.  This is so that software whose whole
>     selling point is "you don't need to know squat to use this because
>     it's all automatic" can continue to oh-so-conveniently
>     automatically run pretty much anything you download off the
>     InterSewer.  False positives are pretty much inevitable with this
>     technology.

Is all this based on facts or on assumptions?  IOW, did you ever
report such problems to Symantec, and got the above as response?

I don't know about Symantec (don't use their products), but with AVG
it works as expected: you submit the offending file for their
analysis, via the GUI of the antivirus program, and get an email
notification, usually within hours, saying that it's a false alarm;
and the virus database is updated within a couple of days accordingly.

So if Symantec is really behaving like you describe, their users
should simply find a better product.



  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-03 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-30  2:02 Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published Christoph Scholtes
2012-01-30  4:55 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-30 17:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 18:17     ` [h-e-w] " Drew Adams
2012-01-30 18:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 19:08         ` Drew Adams
2012-01-30 19:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 18:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-31 14:03   ` Christoph Scholtes
2012-01-31 14:15     ` Drew Adams
2012-02-02 19:22       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-02 19:52         ` Drew Adams
2012-02-02 21:46           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-02 22:05             ` Drew Adams
2012-02-03 13:26               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03  7:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 13:23               ` GnuTLS invasion of Emacs (was: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published) Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03 16:29                 ` GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published) Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 16:51                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09 14:16                     ` need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports (was: GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published)) Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09 18:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-10 13:06                         ` need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 15:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-10 16:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-11 17:22                               ` Andy Moreton
2012-02-11 17:45                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12  2:43                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-12  4:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 13:36                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 10:29                                     ` Andy Moreton
2012-02-13 13:15                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 17:11                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 18:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 22:13                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13  3:28                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 13:24                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 15:12                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 16:30                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 21:04                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 21:54                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 21:55                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-13 22:20                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-14  0:05                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-14  2:13                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-14  2:32                             ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-14 13:01                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03 13:25               ` Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published Stefan Monnier
2012-02-03  0:48 ` [h-e-w] " Richard M. Heiberger
2012-02-03  8:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 10:03     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-03 10:31       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-02-03 13:49         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-03 15:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12  4:04             ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-12  4:08               ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-12 16:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 22:19                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-13  3:29                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13  3:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-13 19:23                       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-14 22:43                 ` Lennart Borgman

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