From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: rmh@temple.edu, cschol2112@googlemail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zkd0dx91.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zkd0z11q.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Cc: "Richard M. Heiberger" <rmh@temple.edu>,
> cschol2112@googlemail.com,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:03:29 +0900
>
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
>
> > You are right: this is a false alarm. Let Symantec people know about
> > it, and ask them to get their act together.
>
> That's hopeless, especially since we're now up to about 3 maybe 4 such
> false alarms (ie, from different Wolf-Crying Peter companies).
>
> (1) They'll say "better safe than sorry," and guess what? they're
> right! (as far as that goes, see (2)).
>
> (2) It's impossible for anybody but Microsoft to truly get the act
> together, because the 3rd party virus checkers have to look for
> "signatures" in the content. This is so that software whose whole
> selling point is "you don't need to know squat to use this because
> it's all automatic" can continue to oh-so-conveniently
> automatically run pretty much anything you download off the
> InterSewer. False positives are pretty much inevitable with this
> technology.
Is all this based on facts or on assumptions? IOW, did you ever
report such problems to Symantec, and got the above as response?
I don't know about Symantec (don't use their products), but with AVG
it works as expected: you submit the offending file for their
analysis, via the GUI of the antivirus program, and get an email
notification, usually within hours, saying that it's a false alarm;
and the virus database is updated within a couple of days accordingly.
So if Symantec is really behaving like you describe, their users
should simply find a better product.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-03 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-30 2:02 Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published Christoph Scholtes
2012-01-30 4:55 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-30 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 18:17 ` [h-e-w] " Drew Adams
2012-01-30 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 19:08 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-30 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-31 14:03 ` Christoph Scholtes
2012-01-31 14:15 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-02 19:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-02 19:52 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-02 21:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-02 22:05 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-03 13:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 13:23 ` GnuTLS invasion of Emacs (was: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published) Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03 16:29 ` GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published) Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 16:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09 14:16 ` need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports (was: GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published)) Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-10 13:06 ` need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-10 16:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-11 17:22 ` Andy Moreton
2012-02-11 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 2:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-12 4:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 13:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 10:29 ` Andy Moreton
2012-02-13 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 17:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 22:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 3:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 13:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 16:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 21:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 21:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 21:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-13 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-14 0:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-14 2:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-14 2:32 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-14 13:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03 13:25 ` Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published Stefan Monnier
2012-02-03 0:48 ` [h-e-w] " Richard M. Heiberger
2012-02-03 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 10:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-03 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-02-03 13:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-03 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 4:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-12 4:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-12 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 22:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-13 3:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 3:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-13 19:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-14 22:43 ` Lennart Borgman
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=83zkd0dx91.fsf@gnu.org \
--to=eliz@gnu.org \
--cc=cschol2112@googlemail.com \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=rmh@temple.edu \
--cc=stephen@xemacs.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.