From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:42:06 +0300 Message-ID: <83zjrjiifl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ppsiw22k.fsf@gmail.com> <83sixej6iz.fsf@gnu.org> <878uz573kr.fsf@gmail.com> <83fvtck8mv.fsf@gnu.org> <87hadrel77.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378906999 9602 80.91.229.3 (11 Sep 2013 13:43:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15312@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 11 15:43:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkhR-0008UV-Qu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:43:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36022 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkhR-0001bm-G8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:43:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47617) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkhI-0001SH-9A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:43:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkhC-00045l-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:43:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46971) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkhC-00045f-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkhB-00029Y-VR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15312 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15312-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15312.13789069488221 (code B ref 15312); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15312) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2013 13:42:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkgd-00028V-JR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:42:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:48101) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkgZ-000284-As for 15312@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:42:24 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MSY00K00R68IY00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15312@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:42:02 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MSY00JX8RE1TXE0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:42:02 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87hadrel77.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78224 Archived-At: > From: Jambunathan K > Cc: 15312@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:25:56 +0530 > > > And in any case, why do you assume this is a documentation bug > > I am not ASSUMING that it is a doc bug. It IS a doc bug. The doc IS > obviously not matching the implementation. When 2 things don't match, one or the other might need to be fixed, and additional arguments are generally needed to decide which one. > the onus is in on YOU to argue on what counts it can be deeemed as a > bug in implementation. Very simple: it doesn't make any sense to me to call the hooks when the value of each property does not change as point moves.