From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:53:28 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjoyewgn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384973633 27843 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2013 18:53:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ttn@gnu.org, asr@ufl.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 20 19:53:56 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjCuS-00050T-BJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:53:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56449 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjCuS-0008Ar-2m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:53:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55481) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjCuC-0007tE-7L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjCu6-0007XS-TX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:53:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:44974) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjCu2-0007X2-MG; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:53:34 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWK00L00SGZQU00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:53:29 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWK00L6YSH4NZ50@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:53:29 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165454 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:35:54 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: asr@ufl.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > - awareness of current-column as a float > I started working on this in 2002, but got distracted. > The (small, exploratory) changes were reverted 2011-03-06. > > - correspondance between buffer pos and pixel (x,y) coords on screen > > - floating (text "flows" around) images, tables, and other "objects" > > - automatic pagination > > - page-based stats (word-count, etc), margins, "styles" > > These seem like important features, I agree. This one is already supported: > - correspondance between buffer pos and pixel (x,y) coords on screen (Unless I misunderstand what is meant by that.) However, I don't understand why these features are put forward before much more basic ones. As I understand Richard's request, he would like to do everything we can do in Texinfo, but with WYSIWYG display, have a capability to export that in several formats, and be able to print it from Emacs. Why not start with these modest features?