From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Move to git is imminent - awaiting Stefan's approval Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 19:30:12 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjn9rpaz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140106165108.B6BF4380865@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389029438 14651 80.91.229.3 (6 Jan 2014 17:30:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 17:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 06 18:30:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0E0h-0004rG-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:30:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36499 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0E0g-00084B-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:30:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45911) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0E0W-0007za-5b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0E0P-0003Xx-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:40844) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0E0P-0003Xl-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:30:25 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYZ00600PWK4400@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 19:30:24 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYZ006FYPYN1G40@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 19:30:24 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20140106165108.B6BF4380865@snark.thyrsus.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167483 Archived-At: > From: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 11:51:08 -0500 (EST) > > I have asked Andreas Schwab and he reports the Savannah git mirror > ready for production use. Having examined it, I agree. Andreas and I > have discussed the switchover and believe it should consist of the > following steps: > > 1. Andreas will turn off bzr commit mirroring. > > 2. Andreas will enter a small documentation commit recording the changeover. > > 3. Andreas will announce on the dev list that the git repo is live for > developer pushes. > > 4. I will do the work required to update /etc and /admin for git use > over the following few days. > > I am now recommending that Andreas perform steps 1-3 at his convenience, no > sooner than 2014-01-06T11:59:00 and no later than 2014-01-07T11:59:00 - > that is, sometime tomorrow. The above is not enough. I would suggest to have the following additional steps, before the switch: 5. Have the procedures and the recommended workflows described on the wiki, similar to what was done with bzr migration. 6. Describe (and test if needed) the procedure for migrating local bzr branches into git without losing history (yes, I have a couple in the works), and describe that on the wiki as well. 7. What about the mail messages to emacs-diffs mailing list? That should be working as well, and support pushes to non-trunk branches. 8. There's the emacs-bzr-version whose value gets copied into the bug reports. This should be replaced by the suitable git equivalent, or else the bug reports (of which we have quite a few each day) will not identify the version correctly. I suggest to leave some time, certainly more than one day, for others to come up with additional activities that need to be completed before the switch. I see no special reason to rush.