From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:58:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjlxscgs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1dc76f7a-5481-41df-b976-ec22229d7283@default> <874n4a42f0.fsf@building.gnus.org> <1281d0fd-77cb-45e2-b99d-f4ad24b0fc4e@default> <2fefcbaf-9417-4f57-93af-490ea73aea98@default> <68a64949-d801-4d09-8dc8-4b6ae0824855@default> <8361oltxu1.fsf@gnu.org> <67b917ca-8b69-49fd-9e12-68da310f7567@default> <52FA6F2C.3010602@easy-emacs.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392145212 2708 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2014 19:00:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15117@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 11 20:00:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIZ9-00066I-37 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:00:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35507 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIZ8-0006UH-Qm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:00:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50305) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIYz-0006U7-MW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:00:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIYt-0002WH-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46651) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIYt-0002Tm-FZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:00:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIYs-00062V-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:00:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15117 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 15117-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15117.139214514623090 (code B ref 15117); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 18:59:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIXx-00060M-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:59:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:47296) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIXu-0005zn-1e for 15117@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0U00B00HQ6EQ00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 15117@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:59:55 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0U00215I3VO6A0@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:59:55 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52FA6F2C.3010602@easy-emacs.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85403 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:42:52 +0100 > From: Andreas Röhler > > IMO these functions should return point if successful, i.e. if point was moved, but nil otherwise, for example at EOB. Why point? E.g., forward-to-indentation could returns the column where it ended up, forward-same-syntax could return the syntax class, forward-visible-line could return the number of screen lines traversed, etc. Once again, the potentially useful value might well be different for each function, and needs to be considered separately for each. There's no "one fits all" here.