From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16617: 24.3.50; REGRESSION: `C-q ?' pops up annoying *Char Help* buffer Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 18:16:43 +0300 Message-ID: <83zjk2a1es.fsf@gnu.org> References: <891cf052-6085-4ad4-b03b-83379a85ff0f@default> <7367bf77-7602-4a02-82ce-804c2f88bf25@default> <87a9c2fzd6.fsf@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396538247 9276 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2014 15:17:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 15:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16617@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 03 17:17:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjOH-0008LN-Mm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 17:17:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44565 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjOH-0005vg-9x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53517) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjO8-0005vW-8n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjO3-0000m5-Cc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjO3-0000lv-9f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjO2-0003rN-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 15:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16617 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16617-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16617.139653819514789 (code B ref 16617); Thu, 03 Apr 2014 15:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2014 15:16:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34587 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjNa-0003qS-V4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:16:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:47012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WVjNW-0003qH-AG for 16617@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:16:31 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3G00100NPITL00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 16617@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 18:18:53 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3G001Q6NVH2N10@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 18:18:53 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87703 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 07:32:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 16617@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > There has been no response to this regression report, which includes a > > > clear recipe to repro it. > > > > Either the recipe is not clean, or you probably haven't tried it > > starting from `emacs -Q'. > > > > `C-q ?' and `C-q ' insert ? or a non-printable character here. > > No help buffers. > > It seems that you did not read the bug report well. Did you see this > part? > > 4. With `emacs -Q', you might not even notice the popped-up *Char Help* > buffer, which means that it does not even do what the enhancer > presumably intended. It just flashes for an instant - impossible to > read it, and serving no purpose but to annoy and puzzle. This alone > is a regression wrt previous Emacs releases. I think it flashes so quickly that is impossible to notice on some platforms or configurations.