From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:54:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjb65cg6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a93cngwv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyfml31.fsf@gnu.org> <874mtio7wh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83r3wml8kq.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjb8n6th.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyb8htc.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417532108 20158 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2014 14:55:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 02 15:54:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xvoqu-0006um-1Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:54:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37232 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xvoqt-0008Cw-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:54:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38847) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xvoql-0008Cj-AO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:54:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xvoqg-0006Er-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:54:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:40900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xvoqf-0006Ei-RI; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:54:42 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NFY00800MM5OG00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:54:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NFY008T9MR4NG10@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:54:40 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178695 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:42:54 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: stephen@xemacs.org, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > I think it's impractical to insert newlines before and after each > > URL. > > We are miscommunicating. What I said is that the USER can insert > newlines in order to see what a certain URL looks like, free of > influence from its surroundings. In that case, it's not a very good idea, IMO. First, some buffers are read-only. Second, when the display is sufficiently jumbled by directional controls, users who are not acquainted with bidi will have trouble figuring out where to insert the newlines. Even I sometimes fail to insert them in the correct position.