From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:28:40 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjb22v4n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a93cngwv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyfml31.fsf@gnu.org> <874mtio7wh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83r3wml8kq.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjb9an0q.fsf@gnu.org> <831toka82r.fsf@gnu.org> <83oaro8km7.fsf@gnu.org> <83k32b6u5l.fsf@gnu.org> <83h9xf6rzs.fsf@gnu.org> <83wq6a5c1q.fsf@gnu.org> <83lhmo63a9.fsf@gnu.org> <83vblr4uqi.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417778928 14392 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 11:28:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 11:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 12:28:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr3v-0000Xt-6d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 12:28:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49848 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr3u-0006tS-RG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:28:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39124) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr3m-0006tE-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:28:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr3h-0002s2-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:28:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:38540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwr3g-0002qn-Oo; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:28:24 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NG300200WVRLS00@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:25:59 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NG300PWTX3A6G20@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:25:59 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178905 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 06:16:22 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Do we need any new features to make it possible to show > how the strange bidi text would really be interpreted? Not sure I understand what you mean here, but if I do, then this is up to applications, because only they know the meaning of a particular piece of displayed text and its interpretation. > I think the feature you proposed, which would examine how text is > actually displayed and represent that with text that is > straightfoward, may be useful too. Again, not sure what proposition you allude to here. Doesn't buffer-substring-with-bidi-context already do that? If not, what is missing?