From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22595: 25.1.50; Wishlist: There should be a way to list timers Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:31:41 +0200 Message-ID: <83ziv9bxj6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87oabrybgk.fsf@gnus.org> <83egcnqge3.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2mekaye.fsf@gnus.org> <87h9hiht4w.fsf@acer.localhost.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455039201 21393 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2016 17:33:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 22595@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ingo Lohmar Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 18:33:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTCA2-0002Xt-Qy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 18:33:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58696 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTCA2-00051i-5X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:33:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC9z-00051H-26 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:33:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC9t-0005t5-Um for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:33:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC9t-0005t0-RX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:33:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC9t-00010N-KP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:33:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22595 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 22595-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22595.14550391273803 (code B ref 22595); Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22595) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2016 17:32:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33807 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC90-0000zH-U9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:32:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC8z-0000yo-9I for 22595@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:32:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC8p-0005Z1-2S for 22595@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:32:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC8p-0005Yx-0E; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:31:55 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1267 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aTC8o-0000wR-7f; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:31:54 -0500 In-reply-to: <87h9hiht4w.fsf@acer.localhost.com> (message from Ingo Lohmar on Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:10:07 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112814 Archived-At: > From: Ingo Lohmar > Cc: 22595@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:10:07 +0100 > > Why is this a good idea at all? Timers are always an implementation > detail, not a user-level feature, as far as I am concerned. We neither > have a UI for working with all overlays or text properties of a buffer, > have we? I had the same thoughts going through my head. At the very least, we should make this command disabled by default. It can be extremely dangerous in unqualified hands.