From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:13:02 +0200 Message-ID: <83ziuncpch.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83egc8qzjh.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc7evu3.fsf@gnus.org> <83io1jpt4u.fsf@gnu.org> <87povqhj25.fsf@gnus.org> <87povqe5tr.fsf@gnus.org> <87ziuta4l4.fsf@gnus.org> <87y4adzcia.fsf@gnus.org> <83twl0k1k5.fsf@gnu.org> <83k2lvi99c.fsf@gnu.org> <83oab6gfiw.fsf@gnu.org> <878u29x8vl.fsf@fastmail.fm> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456510458 20268 80.91.229.3 (26 Feb 2016 18:14:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 18:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, larsi@gnus.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "John Wiegley" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 26 19:14:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aZMu3-0003Jg-PE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 19:14:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZMu2-00042X-74 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:14:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49442) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZMtv-0003yL-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:14:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZMtr-0004yA-MN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:14:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZMtl-0004tr-Tx; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:13:53 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3354 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aZMtE-0003gr-14; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:13:20 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:43:37 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200694 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Cc: rms@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , lokedhs@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:43:37 -0800 > > I'd like to ask at this point that this discussion move to Emacs Tangents, as > it is not approaching anything in the way of a technical consensus. > > Sub-threads addressing specific, concrete issues are welcome on this list; but > the general discussion happening here is only creating volume without result. The discussion (with a few exceptions) is about how to augment the current implementation to make it more acceptable to various needs and cultures. So I think it's directly related to the pretest, and so moving it to emacs-tangents would be wrong.