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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Managing environments (Python venv, guix environment, etc.)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 22:36:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zip6u8v1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oa5mvotr.fsf@earth.catern.com> (message from Spencer Baugh on Sun, 24 Jul 2016 15:05:52 -0400)

> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 15:05:52 -0400
> 
> Why would the effect be so significant?

For the same reason as load-path.

> Is exec-path used internally somehow in some confusing and tricky
> way?

It's used in the same messy way as load-path, just for looking for
different kind of files.  And it is as pervasive as load-path.

> If it's just Elisp using exec-path, it doesn't seem like messing
> with exec-path would be that subtle or difficult.

Not just Elisp, C primitives as well.  And even Elisp can be messy if
it's in preloaded packages like files.el, subr.el and simple.el.

IOW, I simply fail to see how we will be able to avoid disrupting the
most basic features if we modify exec-path.  Even visiting a file can
fire up a subprocess -- how do we make sure the right program for that
will still be found, if we let some project's environment mess with
exec-path behind the user's back?  And what about spellers (e.g., for
ispell-check-comments-and-strings)?  Etc. etc.

Once again, why not use locate-file?  CEDET and EDE already do, and I
assume for good reasons.

More generally, why would a project want to modify exec-path? to find
which programs?  Is it only the compiler/interpreter of the
programming language used by the project, or something else as well,
and why?  E.g., I don't really understand your example with browse-url
-- why would I want to change a browser as function of the project I'm
working on?



  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-24 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14 21:36 Managing environments (Python venv, guix environment, etc.) sbaugh
2016-07-15 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-17 22:41   ` sbaugh
2016-07-18 10:15     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-07-18 14:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-18 19:13       ` sbaugh
2016-07-19 13:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-24  3:35         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-24  8:25           ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 23:08             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-21  0:32       ` sbaugh
2016-07-22 20:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-23  7:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-24  3:26             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-24  8:25               ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 14:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-24 17:45                   ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 17:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-24 19:05                       ` Spencer Baugh
2016-07-24 19:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-07-25  4:50                           ` sbaugh
2016-07-25 17:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-28  0:47                               ` sbaugh
2016-07-24 23:04                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25  2:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-25  5:01                     ` sbaugh
2016-07-25 17:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-25  7:07                   ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-25 12:49                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25 13:03                       ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-25 13:06                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25 13:41                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-28  0:02                         ` sbaugh
2016-07-28  9:34                           ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-28 14:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-29 17:59                             ` sbaugh
2016-07-29 18:59                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-29 19:20                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-30  6:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-30 14:42                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-30 15:56                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-29 20:57                                 ` sbaugh
2016-07-30  7:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-30 13:30                                     ` sbaugh
2016-07-30 16:17                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-30 11:24                                   ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-29 18:42                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-29 19:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-26  2:36                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-24 14:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-25  0:05                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-25 17:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-26  2:08                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-26  3:06                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-26 10:45                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-07-26 12:46                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-26 14:49                       ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-07-28 10:01 Spencer Baugh
     [not found] <87shuuvzz6.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id>
2016-07-28 10:08 ` Michael Albinus

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