From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Before l10n, better practices for (message) ?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 21:36:08 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zie3mndz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6BED2506-B1C2-4005-AFDE-2BF04209F16C@gmail.com> (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Tue, 23 May 2017 12:38:29 +0900)
> From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 12:38:29 +0900
>
>
> > On May 23, 2017, at 11:55, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm currently going through package.el and the easiest solution I have for now is replace things like "%d package%s to install" (where %s is "s" depending on whether %d is greater than 1...) into "Number of packages to install: %d.".
> >
> > Just replace it with 2 different spellings dispatched by the number.
>
> I know we don't have l10n now, but what you propose is also based on the grammatical assumption that we have only 2 possible forms so I would try to avoid that too.
Having 2 forms is as close to the ideal as we can have, given that we
don't have infrastructure for more complicated cases. Introducing
functions that will meanwhile do nothing non-trivial doesn't sound a
good idea to me; such functions will only make sense when they
actually support non-trivial plurals (and for that, we need first to
figure out how to select the language into which any given message
needs to be translated).
> > We don't have any mechanisms that I know of, and won't have until the
> > large part of the i10n issues is resolved by motivated individuals.
>
> I guess I just found something to do in the coming months... :)
>
> What I'll do is propose a patch for package.el that makes UI strings the most linguistically neutral possible (within my understanding of English), and after discussing the changes, if we can use that as a base to create a list of "best practices", I'll use that to check the other packages included in the distribution.
I'm not sure package.el is a good starting point. I think a much
better starting point is to design the i10n infrastructure for Emacs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-23 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-22 23:30 Before l10n, better practices for (message) ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-23 0:59 ` Tino Calancha
2017-05-23 1:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-23 2:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-23 3:38 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-23 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-05-23 22:00 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-24 2:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-24 2:40 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-24 4:22 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-24 8:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-24 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-24 21:29 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-26 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2017-05-24 22:09 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-24 22:35 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-26 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-24 23:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-23 7:52 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-23 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-23 22:03 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-26 8:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-26 14:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-26 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-26 18:08 ` Yuri Khan
2017-05-26 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-27 1:52 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-26 18:54 ` Etienne Prud’homme
2017-05-26 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-26 19:15 ` Etienne Prud’homme
2017-05-26 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-26 21:57 ` Etienne Prud’homme
2017-05-27 7:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-27 1:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-27 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-27 4:08 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-05-27 7:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-28 4:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-05-27 23:27 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2017-05-28 0:44 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-28 14:44 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
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