From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] scratch/widen-less a4ba846: Replace prog-widen with consolidating widen calls Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 20:33:12 +0200 Message-ID: <83zi71yo7r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20171129233237.27462.23351@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20171129233238.504B5204F1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <5d668ce5-1482-a3d4-c01b-7d996a532567@yandex.ru> <20171130214621.GA22157@ACM> <27985594-3bb4-ce88-8928-2ccfeac13eae@yandex.ru> <20171201154913.GB3840@ACM> <1e542021-e389-cca4-6acd-349efddb2652@yandex.ru> <20171201223529.GG3840@ACM> <4a94ec5c-efdd-50f1-ff4d-277f5f45c2df@yandex.ru> <83lgil1qme.fsf@gnu.org> <83d13x1j2s.fsf@gnu.org> <83609p129g.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512239631 30547 195.159.176.226 (2 Dec 2017 18:33:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 18:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, tom@tromey.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, spinuvit@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 02 19:33:46 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLCbi-0007dx-AA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 19:33:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36599 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLCbp-0001MV-Cf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:33:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56533) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLCbj-0001MF-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:33:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLCbf-0001hu-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:33:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51883) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLCbf-0001hq-58; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:33:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2440 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eLCbd-0000lO-96; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:33:43 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:53:58 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220625 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, tom@tromey.com, spinuvit@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:53:58 -0500 > > > I think the feature should be fairly complete before it lands, yes. > > Would "make it work with Lisp and C" be satisfied if the "and C" part > uses sm-c-mode? I don't see how it could be, not IMO. I think we need it working with the C modes the majority of Emacs users are using, the ones that are part of Emacs. > If not, then I'm afraid this makes it nigh-on impossible. Can you explain why is this so hard that you are willing to give up?