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Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions?
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> From: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:24:32 -0800
> Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
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> I think the confusion here is because the Emacs manual currently uses
> the term "load" in two incompatible ways. Loading a package means
> evaluating its autoloads, while loading a Lisp file means evaluating
> the file's Lisp code.

Please point out the places in the manual where we use "load" in the
former sense.  I think those places need to be fixed, because that's
not what "load" means in the Emacs context.

Thanks.