From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 31125@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#31125: 26; (emacs) `Highlight Interactively'
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:38:08 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zi281wpr.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <128680b7-eb89-42ec-9013-a99120d6d8f8@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:37:50 -0700 (PDT))
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:37:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 31125-done@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Yes, I'm aware of that. And that additional, syntactic
> meaning of "symbol" in Emacs jargon has little-to-nothing
> to do with Lisp symbols.
>
> A reader won't learn anything about Lisp symbols by
> reading that node. On the contrary: s?he will instead
> mislearn something untrue that suggests it is about Lisp
> symbols but is not.
>
> A Lisp symbol is not just "a source code token", nor are
> Lisp-mode "source code tokens" necessarily Lisp symbols.
> Using `forward-symbol' or "symbol search" in Lisp does
> not move across or find Lisp symbols.
>
> It's too bad that Emacs chose to appropriate the term
> "symbol" for that other, essentially unrelated meaning.
> But it did. It's a shame because Lisp is something
> really important to Emacs, and so to Emacs users. And
> symbols are something important to Lisp.
>
> This is what Lisp symbols are about (though they have
> additional characteristics):
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_(programming)
We were talking about the user manual, where the reader is not
necessarily a Lisp programmer. For the latter, see "Symbols" in the
ELisp manual.
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2018-04-12 4:37 ` bug#31125: 26; (emacs) `Highlight Interactively' Drew Adams
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