From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Encoding of etc/HELLO Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 11:56:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83zi0ug0y1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83sh7qxb5j.fsf@gnu.org> <87po2t6gdm.fsf@gmx.de> <83muxxyijl.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgdhyeqv.fsf@gnu.org> <83k1t1xcjp.fsf@gnu.org> <87fu3owqqa.fsf@md5i.com> <83k1rzhdoo.fsf@gnu.org> <69662556-2fb0-356f-dad8-5b94d6833ce5@cs.ucla.edu> <83in7jh6ab.fsf@gnu.org> <013a179a-660a-f436-d9d4-af3466f8ff03@cs.ucla.edu> <83h8n3h4lt.fsf@gnu.org> <2169290c-1668-a2b6-dd76-dfc2c8ca4753@cs.ucla.edu> <83efi7h0qi.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1526806504 23365 195.159.176.226 (20 May 2018 08:55:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 08:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: eggert@cs.ucla.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 20 10:54:59 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKK7H-0005uZ-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 10:54:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45745 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKK9M-00011Z-VI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 04:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKK8h-00011S-BY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 04:56:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKK8g-0002rT-LG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 04:56:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKK8c-0002qT-Nq; Sun, 20 May 2018 04:56:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4142 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fKK8b-0005AH-Up; Sun, 20 May 2018 04:56:22 -0400 In-reply-to: <83efi7h0qi.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 19 May 2018 23:03:17 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225468 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 23:03:17 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: mwd@md5i.com, handa@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > In the meantime how about if we mark up etc/HELLO with lang commands instead of > > x-charset commands, except that we also keep x-charset commands that actually > > affect Emacs display in common use (e.g., CJK charsets)? When we get lang > > working, we can then remove the remaining x-charset commands. > > I'd rather we first fixed the charset properties coverage in the file > so that they make more sense. Now done on the master branch. As for 'lang', it sounds strange to me to use a text property that has absolutely no meaning in the current Emacs. I think we should first develop at least some initial support for this property, and only then start using it in files we distribute.