From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 16:35:47 +0300 Message-ID: <83zhnl9pak.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> <3210C8E9-7A74-47D6-81A0-470948E6D09C@gmail.com> <87r28xq0j1.fsf@telefonica.net> <576240a5-c92a-5cf8-898b-43f214a2b580@yandex.ru> <83imu9beyn.fsf@gnu.org> <8463581c-c40f-a66a-5c9c-0995a3b45cd0@yandex.ru> <83bm01b83i.fsf@gnu.org> <66e5fc8d-5cf4-89cd-5c4f-7fad581a97f5@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="35567"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 17 15:38:29 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRd48-00093E-D6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 15:38:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48797 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRd47-0002WM-EO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 09:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRd1r-0001DB-Tt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 09:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRd1r-0005AC-RB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 09:36:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3651 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hRd1p-0006lK-1H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 09:36:07 -0400 In-reply-to: <66e5fc8d-5cf4-89cd-5c4f-7fad581a97f5@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 17 May 2019 16:17:56 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120478 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 16:17:56 +0300 > > On 17.05.2019 15:04, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> Anyway, you seem to be agreeing with me, but this discussion started > >> from Ergus giving an example of one such inconsistency. And I have yet > >> to see you state a solid opinion about it in particular. > > > > A single example doesn't yet make a point. To prove we have a > > problem, much more than one example will be needed. > > What point would I be trying to prove? That Emacs is outdated are people > shouldn't be using it anymore? No, that we have lots of inconsistencies in keybindings (or elsewhere). > > As for my opinion on this, I make a point of not posting "me too" > > responses, if I don't have something more intelligent to add to the > > discussion. Especially a discussion as long as this one. > > Since you're the person to make the ultimate choice, your silence should > be taken to mean you don't see a reason to change things. I hope now it is clear that would be a wrong interpretation.