From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6861: 24.0.50; Scroll lock not bound Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 22:21:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83zhjuct2n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837e77lo3g.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvaajwes.fsf@gnu.org> <83blwaeq7w.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfve7ogb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <837e6yejvk.fsf@gnu.org> <87ef16779w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="67413"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 6861@debbugs.gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 27 21:23:13 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h3g-000HPV-HM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:23:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56234 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h3f-00085y-8x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h3Y-00085o-68 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h3W-0000z4-Ua for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h3W-0000yT-Ot for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h3V-00061k-Kc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6861 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 6861-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6861.156693372223061 (code B ref 6861); Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:23:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6861) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2019 19:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h2X-0005zo-Eo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:22:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h2V-0005zW-TU for 6861@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:22:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h2O-000899-EW; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:21:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4203 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i2h2N-0005dB-12; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:21:51 -0400 In-reply-to: <87ef16779w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:11:39 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:165980 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 6861@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:11:39 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: David Kastrup > >> Cc: Stefan Kangas , 6861@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:00:36 +0200 > >> > >> According to Git's logs, w32-scroll-lock-modifier keyboard support was > >> apparently originally contributed by Geoff Voelker in 1999 (he has not > >> been active since that year) and subsequently maintained and documented > >> by you (last documentation changes in 2016). For better or worse, that > >> probably makes you by far the best candidate for documenting (and/or > >> possibly even for fixing) the interactions of w32-scroll-lock-modifier > >> with default activations of the Scroll Lock keybindings on non-Windows > >> systems. > > > > What if the best candidate doesn't necessarily have time for doing > > everything for which he/she is the best candidate? Does the best > > candidate then get to be able to ask someone else to do it? > > Nobody gets to ask someone else to do anything regarding free software > unless paying them for it. In the end, that means that most features > and ports get maintained by those interested in the particular port > and/or feature. > > The quality of the Windows port, like all ports, stands and falls with > the interest of those investing time and energy into it. Blocking > useful features for free platforms because of interference with > non-standard settings of Windows-only special features is something that > does not make a lot of sense within the frame of the GNU project. > > If you have a concrete proposal of what to do better other than "don't > touch this code", based on your relative acquaintance with it, that > would likely go a long way towards keeping things running also on W32. You've made a huge mountain out of a molehill. All I did was review a patch and provide comments to make it better.