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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 0339325: ; * lisp/progmodes/project.el (project-current): Doc fix.
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 06:48:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zh84m5ws.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7bf4d6ef-c0ec-43dc-ad5d-f6e81422ad90@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 12 Jul 2020 23:07:46 +0300)

> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 23:07:46 +0300
> 
> On 12.07.2020 21:49, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >   The \"transient\" project instance is a special kind of value
> >   which denotes a project rooted in that directory and includes all
> > -files under it except for ones that match standard ignores.
> > +the files under the directory except for those that should be
> > +ignored (per `project-ignores').
> 
> The more accurate way to say this

What isn't accurate in what I wrote?  (The point being that 'standard
ignores" is something never mentioned in any other function or
variable in project.el, and so this term is unknown and confusing.)

>    except for those that are ignored
>    in the default 'project-ignores' implementation.
> 
> But this is basically a tautology. If we wanted to describe transient's 
> particular behavior we'd have to describe what it actually ignores (and 
> it honors vc-directory-exclusion-list as well as 
> grep-find-ignored-files). But that pretty clunky for one docstring.

Which is why I just mentioned the function which implements all that.

> So 
> perhaps that description should move somewhere. Into the Commentary, 
> maybe. Or directly to the cl-defgeneric's docstring, to which 
> project-current's docstring would after all refer to as "the default 
> `project-ignores' implementation".

You cannot usefully refer to the default implementation without saying
that this or that types of project use the default implementation,
which is IMO against your information encapsulation policies.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-13  3:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20200712184909.BBC61209B1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2020-07-12 20:07   ` master 0339325: ; * lisp/progmodes/project.el (project-current): Doc fix Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-13  3:48     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-07-13 11:09       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-13 13:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-13 14:14           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-16 22:40           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17  6:56             ` Opaque objects and Emacs documentation Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17  8:13               ` tomas
2020-07-17 10:40                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 15:38                   ` tomas
2020-07-17 10:37               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-07-17 10:46                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 10:53                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-07-17 10:53               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 11:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 12:02                   ` Noam Postavsky
2020-07-17 12:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 13:09                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 13:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 14:35                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 15:03                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-18  1:54                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-18 19:17                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-19  2:27                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-19 14:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 19:00                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:36                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 20:56                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 21:06                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 20:49                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 20:59                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 21:20                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 21:25                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:08                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 21:02                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 20:29                                     ` John Yates
2020-07-22  0:45                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 14:08                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-19 22:02                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-20  2:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-21  1:09                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21  8:57                                   ` tomas
2020-07-21 10:14                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 10:29                                       ` tomas
2020-07-21 14:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 18:56                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 21:31                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 14:28                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 15:44                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 16:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 16:37                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:36                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-07-21 21:17                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 22:12                                       ` Edebug (was: Opaque objects and Emacs documentation) Stefan Monnier
2020-07-22 14:31                                       ` Opaque objects and Emacs documentation Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 15:33                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 16:22                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 16:26                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-23  4:04                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-23 13:42                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 11:43                               ` João Távora
2020-07-17 13:08                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 13:42                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 14:56                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 16:56                   ` John Yates
2020-07-17 17:13                     ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 19:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 19:26                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 19:25                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 11:53                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-17 13:13                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:26                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-17 16:58                       ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 19:22                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 22:30                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-18  0:00                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-07-18  1:01                           ` Drew Adams
2020-07-18  1:55                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-17 16:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-23 23:24                 ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-23 23:40                   ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 11:23                       ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24 11:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24  0:43                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-24  1:22                     ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 16:33                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-25 16:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 20:18                             ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-26  2:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-26  9:16                                 ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-26 14:02                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 20:49                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-25 16:38                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 14:56                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-24 17:21                         ` Drew Adams
2020-07-24 17:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii

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