From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43322: Confusing menu entry for cua-mode Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:05:33 +0300 Message-ID: <83zh4cgib6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wo10hkgg.fsf@gnu.org> <83363of6fs.fsf@gnu.org> <83d018iul1.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6008"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 43322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 24 10:06:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEZ3-0001T4-A9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:06:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60926 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEZ2-0003b6-6o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:06:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57604) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEYv-0003av-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:06:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47395) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEYs-0001yX-HQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEYs-0007rk-Ct for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:06:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43322 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43322-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43322.160352675430218 (code B ref 43322); Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43322) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2020 08:05:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58941 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEYk-0007rK-Hm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:05:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57500) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEYi-0007r5-RH for 43322@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:05:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEYd-0001sS-Ie; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:05:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4942 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kWEYa-0003k7-NQ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 04:05:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 23 Oct 2020 21:17:42 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:191411 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 21:17:42 +0000 > Cc: 43322@debbugs.gnu.org > > We should probably replace "Shift movement mark region" with something > else. But it's not clear to me how to best describe it; its other > features don't really lend themselves to a short one line description. > > I see two options: > > 1. Change "Shift movement mark region" to "CUA Mode (without > C-x/C-c/C-v)" with tooltip "Enable CUA Mode without setting > C-x/C-c/C-v keys". Perhaps we could even add on to the tooltip the > explanatory text " (`cua-enable-cua-keys' is non-nil)". > > 2. If we can make the assumption that a user who has set > `cua-enable-cua-keys' at least vaguely knows what they are doing, > perhaps we could get away with just not doing anything special in > that case. In that case, we can get rid of the special handling and > just show the default menu entry under all circumstances. > > WDYT? Any other ideas? I think we should do 1, but how do we name that item? what does CUA mode do nowadays when CUA keys are disabled?