From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-28 47cbd10: * lisp/bindings.el (mode-line-position): Improve tooltip. Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 15:32:48 +0300 Message-ID: <83zgrdnlzj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834k9qy6hn.fsf@gnu.org> <831r4uy4ub.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtnih96h.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <83y272wnok.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmsev7uo.fsf@omarpolo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13028"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, op@omarpolo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 13 14:34:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1madSW-00036m-VA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 14:34:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47268 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1madSV-0002ih-Ko for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 08:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1madRJ-0000h6-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 08:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57138) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1madRI-0004o4-3d; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 08:32:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3572 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1madRG-0004SK-9n; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 08:32:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:33:43 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276878 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:33:43 -0700 > Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Having thought about the various alternatives for a bit, my suggestion > is this: > > "Window Scroll Position" > > It seems to capture that this is more about the window ("viewport" is > accurate but not a term we normally use) than about the buffer itself. > Buffer position seems to suggest that this has to do with the position > of point, which we already have the column/line number display for. > > It will also avoid the problem that someone sees "Top" or "Bot", but the > tooltip incorrectly says that it is a "Percentage". > > Does this sound like an acceptable conclusion to this discussion? No, because "position" in Emacs is too tightly coupled with a simple number that is a buffer position. Just look at our usage of that term in the documentation.