From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 14:22:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83zgfv8as9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> <8735dplo5d.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgfxlnw3.fsf@gnus.org> <87h725k8ze.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edx9ln65.fsf@gnus.org> <874jy5k80y.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yillm64.fsf@gnus.org> <87edx9ist0.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jy5gjoi.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnb0bnmn.fsf@gnus.org> <87tu64ec1w.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yik8pb6.fsf@gnus.org> <87bksceaqu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87czcs79l8.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnb0ctf0.fsf@yahoo.com> <83czcs9o9p.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu63bxbm.fsf@yahoo.com> <834jy3adme.fsf@gnu.org> <877d2zbqx1.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23113"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 13:22:48 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQRzb-0005r6-UY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 13:22:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33220 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQRzb-0002S0-1R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 07:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48360) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQRyy-0001ka-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 07:22:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQRyy-00086y-3K; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 07:22:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=p3X/dWH9XnIt3bu999jGsEelsE0Z2/uFBVm014n6MNQ=; b=nrCEzI/XDvkV x1vbj6YtDhs0KRzfwFCHFq7mVi8KaYE6DUYhVgZUE+L5PYuIuJWq3cvmoreX4CH40N451zRbLDyM0 7jzB3esfpZPgDzPiFviDGbkZFwo+Up7z9X82iSIDNrTl41owKmSzZ9Xi6hq/wTg+MGXy6t714xSfK XS3tOfy64rbYV95FuPBx9HywypTggtPjSVM+59O/WJW8OsOLtVP/f3FMN9ogPb3zCstSukakTiyiw LleKU/P2eX2mkLfLfoBIroxxREKMIhruJCEhDpwoKJCImpY64aprf+X77kWBzn9V1ICWQfqXHWOsL q++fsGRMatwbdXexdh4hwA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3437 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQRyx-0004rB-Is; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 07:22:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877d2zbqx1.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 11:05:30 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293863 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 11:05:30 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Then I think we should aim for the defaults described above. > > > > What about builds with GTK 2 -- do they have fewer problems? Can they > > support XInput2 in a reasonable way? > > They support XInput 2 (and most of the other features I mentioned as > problematic on 3.x) correctly, but GTK+ 2.x is obsolete and probably > will be removed from most GNU/Linux distributions soon. That's understood, but until it is removed (which could take a few more years, for all I know, especially in ELS distros), perhaps we should consider preferring it to the GTK 3.x build? If both versions are available, that is.