From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com,
acm@muc.de, theo@thornhill.no
Subject: Re: Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:16:56 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zgdrxbmv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1qr347wn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 19 Oct 2022 21:15:00 -0400)
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com,
> acm@muc.de, theo@thornhill.no
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 21:15:00 -0400
>
> > Trust me, I have my own bad experiences with CC Mode fontification. See
> > the slew of bugs I found and reported with Emacs 29's CC Mode just this
> > week: bug#58537, bug#58534, bug#58539. My problem is the blanket
> > dismissal of what CC Mode actually gets right that seems to be
> > alarmingly prevalent around here ("... in Emacs 30, let's get rid of CC
> > Mode!")
>
> Some people seem very optimistic about what tree-sitter will bring, yes.
> I think our track record should be enough to reassure users that we
> won't just throw away CC-mode if tree-sitter doesn't prove to be
> a worthy replacement *and* that it won't be thrown away any time soon
> even if tree-sitter is much better.
No one seriously proposed getting rid of what CC Mode does now in the
areas of fontification and indentation. What's currently on the table
is to provide optional behavior based on tree-sitter, and let users
try that and us collect feedback and decide how to develop Emacs in
these areas in the future. I hope we will be able to start that in
Emacs 29.
> So, let's all take a deep breath and just wait to see how things play
> out before we make any assumption or decision.
No such assumptions or decisions are expected any time soon, so
everyone can stop holding their breath and start breathing again.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-20 6:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 208+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-09 9:03 Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 9:47 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 12:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 12:41 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 15:18 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 19:25 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 21:21 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 22:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-10 6:35 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 22:39 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 4:05 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 6:35 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 6:46 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 7:08 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 15:48 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 16:29 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 17:16 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 17:53 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 18:04 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 6:53 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-11 7:16 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 14:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-09 12:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 12:27 ` Po Lu
2022-10-09 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 14:01 ` Po Lu
2022-10-09 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 6:39 ` Turing on tree-sitter (was: Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes) Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 6:46 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 6:54 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 7:26 ` Turing on tree-sitter Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-10 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-10 15:29 ` Daniel Martín
2022-10-10 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 16:06 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 16:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-10 16:54 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 17:05 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 20:56 ` Buliding with tree-sitter (Was: Turing on tree-sitter) Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-10 21:34 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-10 22:54 ` Turing on tree-sitter Daniel Martín
2022-10-10 8:19 ` Turing on tree-sitter (was: Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes) Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 6:59 ` Turing on tree-sitter Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-09 14:36 ` Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes Brian
2022-10-09 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 15:20 ` Brian
2022-10-09 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 16:03 ` Brian
2022-10-09 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 23:45 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 9:34 ` Brian
2022-10-10 10:10 ` Po Lu
2022-10-10 10:27 ` Brian
2022-10-10 15:53 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 3:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-10 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 9:23 ` Brian
2022-10-09 20:01 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 20:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-09 21:12 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 0:01 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 19:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-10 20:54 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-17 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 18:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-17 22:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 13:47 ` Ketevan Lomidze
2022-10-18 3:24 ` Po Lu
2022-10-18 4:42 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-18 6:35 ` Po Lu
2022-10-18 9:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-18 10:36 ` Po Lu
2022-10-18 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-20 0:19 ` Po Lu
2022-10-20 1:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-20 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-10-21 19:19 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-20 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-18 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 8:03 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-10 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 6:44 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 9:04 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 9:20 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 9:44 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 21:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 21:45 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 0:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-11 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 6:41 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 7:23 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 7:41 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 8:15 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-11 9:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-11 9:58 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 6:58 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-11 7:13 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 18:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-11 18:43 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 18:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-11 18:57 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 19:01 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-11 20:36 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 20:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-11 21:01 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-12 10:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-11 19:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-11 19:28 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 4:43 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 5:14 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-11 5:33 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 6:50 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 5:47 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 7:50 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 8:23 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 8:51 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 10:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-11 12:49 ` Visuwesh
2022-10-11 16:56 ` Daniel Martín
2022-10-11 18:18 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-11 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 7:35 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 7:47 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 8:17 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 8:40 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 10:46 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 8:51 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-11 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 7:31 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 8:15 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 8:47 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 10:17 ` Daniel Martín
2022-10-11 8:43 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-10-11 16:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-11 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 21:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-11 22:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 22:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-12 0:41 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 9:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-12 10:47 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 5:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 0:26 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 3:31 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-12 4:27 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 9:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-12 10:48 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 21:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-10 7:34 ` Roman Rudakov
2022-10-10 7:48 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 7:53 ` Roman Rudakov
2022-10-10 9:04 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 20:44 ` Roman Rudakov
2022-10-11 21:00 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-10 15:28 ` TypeScript support for tree-sitter (was Re: Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes) Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-10 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-10 16:43 ` Theodor Thornhill via Emacs development discussions.
2022-10-10 17:07 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-10 17:48 ` Theodor Thornhill via Emacs development discussions.
2022-10-10 18:04 ` Theodor Thornhill via Emacs development discussions.
2022-10-10 18:53 ` Theodor Thornhill via Emacs development discussions.
2022-10-11 20:07 ` Theodor Thornhill via Emacs development discussions.
2022-10-11 20:22 ` Theodor Thornhill via Emacs development discussions.
2022-10-12 6:51 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-12 7:11 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 8:25 ` Po Lu
2022-10-11 8:42 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 13:48 ` Theodor Thornhill
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-10-11 23:14 Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-12 5:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 15:09 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-12 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 16:47 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-21 23:45 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-22 1:52 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-22 3:42 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-22 6:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-22 15:51 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-24 4:20 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-24 15:41 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-24 15:46 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-24 6:23 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-24 15:44 ` João Paulo Labegalini de Carvalho
2022-10-24 16:00 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-12 7:18 Payas Relekar
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