From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:56:19 +0200 Message-ID: <83zgaeo9nw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bkmv6z36.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87bkmv6z36.fsf@yahoo.com> <83y1pzyqed.fsf@gnu.org> <875yd296la.fsf@yahoo.com> <83lelyzuph.fsf@gnu.org> <871qnq91l1.fsf@yahoo.com> <835yd2ps1v.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn5i7id9.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qnqppkm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfg67fv5.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2271"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 15:56:43 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIWLK-0000NH-P9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:56:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIWL3-0004ge-Eq; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:56:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIWL1-0004gV-Qd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:56:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIWL1-0003I9-Hc; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:56:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=XTc5EWGB7QFRimzkUadSZuqfvQhOewspVPiPjLZaYNA=; b=iwzcGAuEQBWM SUNJtr226O6xROYUKpSTkiohSP0SoLW4sDhuIQ6VnIppa23ijj5xFOUn40P2xqMXWIWU2wWv5HtCw DjHxnRtl1YgNW7asZ6JdAV1wIGxqjSk5HZ0iDSs7npI4uljU8hjv9ghOnMpcm0SY77HdbV3fSkO3x Kyqud2vdK1jVAZQg32gQfBz3vUEnfJp2kl2gGksHzMPkvzVY+cBfBM+DvGlPxrWjmVCFtiO1svz9z mf2B/5dRykmBb10zcpY/QE6h1b4mEW/x+Fr5pby8Guz+HVKCU3GBWTcyzYT1pkJdU48Gkc8XtDEqx 7Ehz/FNteQ32iUhyqZ1zRQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIWL0-0002Xa-Qd; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:56:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87sfg67fv5.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:34:22 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302549 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:34:22 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > If we do decide to have this, I'd definitely want more documentation > > of the internals and how they differ from the "traditional" platforms > > than you have there now, and preferably in one place, not scattered > > among the many source files, Makefile's, and READMEs. > > Sure. Please feel free to describe what you find confusing, and I will > try to document it in the README in the java directory. It isn't just about the Java directory. It's every point where the Android port deviates from its desktop/laptop behavior. Starting with dumping, then the fact that we compile to shared libraries instead of executables, etc. etc. > > Then there are the design decisions you made: how to support windows > > and frames, how to handle the "task-killer" issues, how to handle the > > Android's access rights and privileges system, etc. > > > For instance, I was quite surprised to see lack of support for scroll > > bars on account of them being "useless": I'm a happy user of an > > Android smartphone, and I use the scroll bars all the time. > > I tried to find the scroll bars in a real (as in, not Emacs) Android > application, and could not find any at all. ?? The Web browser comes to mind and the email client. The scroll bar in both is quite functional.