From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59961: [PATCH] ; * lib-src/emacsclient.c: Add parameters option information. Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:28:36 +0200 Message-ID: <83zfxckvu3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83a63uuth3.fsf@gnu.org> <83lem45bdp.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4503"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: lx@shellcodes.org, 59961@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 11 11:29:14 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsJG-0000xv-49 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:29:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsJ8-0005Pg-Dz; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:29:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsJ7-0005PY-MY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:29:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsJ7-0003OQ-Ef for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:29:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsJ4-0001fl-DC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:29:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59961 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 59961-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59961.17049689366417 (code B ref 59961); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 10:28:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsIx-0001fQ-ON for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:28:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsIw-0001fB-HP for 59961@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:28:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsIt-0003CT-Ap; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:28:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=2WlkgcLCPzw64/jXW1WGr3fSTY91UPAqzsvbE30+edc=; b=FWHpawW1Z2zF nsSgV/QE5TBBnzfEWhBxqz36l3uh2QEwZAGcBZyR/Qj/1+gks5B7OUA2WGo2r/OSo7k202TMNikSQ 1T97PKu1qyM+mEv2uD8wYLGPMwB5kUw+UoC6F0tQdBTuY8PNXcDwdYvhFcJ8b3l2u6cfgFbchHqFM oUP+YkbCjuDchPQ5aA2Jx5XGKZgRKNwrTws/YrOzz17cugobq/O1t9t9HV0kyfFGXUm1zpFBZ/WWt gSqhrpo2E45B2pob8M0ucexVkwbQgL7flJo3ie9uUtpz9M56jhl1v3sY/x+GNe1utmBt1U3eBWvi8 rkBKcwkfRPmTUk7BfyDNvA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:35:00 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:277880 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:35:00 -0800 > Cc: lux , 59961@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: lux > >> Cc: 59961@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 18:16:43 +0800 > >> > >> lux writes: > >> > >> > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 12:26:16 +0200 > >> > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > > >> >> The --help message already says that. Why do we need that in an error > >> >> message as well? > >> > > >> > Because when I forgot `server-start`, the information given was not > >> > intuitive enough, and I needed to use `--help` again. And these three > >> > parameters themselves need to provide value, so adding them will be > >> > more intuitive. Thanks. > >> > >> Hi, this question seems to be forgotten? > > > > No, not forgotten. I just don't think we should make this change, as > > the text says which features/options to use, not how to use them. > > What's the drawback to being a bit more helpful though? The message becomes longer. And it only added the info to the command-line options, but not to the corresponding environment variables. Finally, the meaning of SOCKET and SERVER are never explained. So it simply sounded to me like a personal issue that is not necessarily relevant to everyone else.