From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67810: 29.1; fonts use synthetic bold on Linux / pgtk Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:55:46 +0200 Message-ID: <83zfx8dkwd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0719018bb386e840efaa655b7c0b765ece9cd9ff.camel@timruffing.de> <87h6klja8c.fsf@yahoo.com> <723b91276f83652bc6867f95630e1057c05ffb26.camel@timruffing.de> <87ttnj2uj6.fsf@yahoo.com> <83frz3j6bq.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5pa3m9q.fsf@yahoo.com> <83bk9qkc53.fsf@gnu.org> <875xzy3frj.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qamka3m.fsf@gnu.org> <871qam3dbr.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sf32iqs5.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf3212mz.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sf31hg72.fsf@gnu.org> <87frz020di.fsf@yahoo.com> <83il3wfn57.fsf@gnu.org> <8734v01gm1.fsf@yahoo.com> <838r4sfeem.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttngyqp6.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qakf1vv.fsf@gnu.org> <87le8syp2q.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24355"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 14 15:57:30 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1vW-0006AS-Ia for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 15:57:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1vA-00026A-5A; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:57:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1v7-000261-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1v5-0001Sl-5R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1v3-0000Wu-Vh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:57:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 14:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67810 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67810-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67810.17052441732024 (code B ref 67810); Sun, 14 Jan 2024 14:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67810) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2024 14:56:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43954 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1uH-0000Wa-0S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:56:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1uF-0000WU-7e for 67810@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:56:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP1u9-00019E-Hs; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:56:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=5JSnOLqpKAdXTGxUoiey0Jzx0Cx4tLLXX+cV8M+Btxg=; b=nZsQz5gNYOn0 KVo8TZrSg+4gq1/VAd2swn9aoffYFBMpDTDklzX/xydj7gt0OglJeVpVruFORzzR7LRyg5XMq1qis YrzzXXhzG+FgWoQJy2Uvr3Jyre3KmpZbbU487tKf3XzTdDp5hCFAsuyyxfE3niWvSX0trvAo7LNY2 aJlOnekHEq5+7dRknV3/NpgICV2Lri4kzNsfa9oJYXi63zMlfPUCOjC121QGcxvJc7v1eYnOPDO7z 6tNMELWtvSTezm9x5EZWrVS6zKNJRnGCQvPO77VGDiKMi2Yh4skDYuhMey8ciugjCsMlJlTchWf5d vFF7UZ8R1U4b3m2sV1F5+Q==; In-Reply-To: <87le8syp2q.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:19:57 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278220 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:19:57 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I still don't understand what would be the downside of giving users > > such a knob. The worst that can happen is that this knob will > > sometimes not work. So what? > > I thought we didn't want options that only work once in a blue moon, and > that only when Jupiter is aligned with the Galactic Center, or something > similarly rare, such as using the X core font backend. We don't know what is the fraction of cases that this will work. We do know that sometimes it won't, but it could be "good enough". > > I say let's introduce it and let users who want to use it cope with > > the results. All it takes is a new DRFVAR and a single 'if'. > > I've expressed my objections, but if you're fine with the said > shortcomings, then I won't press the matter. I think we should provider such a variable, yes. As long as it doesn't require any further maintenance, I don't see any downsides.