From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:21:47 +0300 Message-ID: <83y6slrl0k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <23521879.post@talk.nabble.com> <7b501d5c0905131659r1d79ec56s5a59f76e4713edf9@mail.gmail.com> <23532135.post@talk.nabble.com> <87tz3odq3l.fsf@iki.fi> <23538683.post@talk.nabble.com> <87eiuru24b.fsf@iki.fi> <39370.130.55.118.19.1242397867.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <48914.130.55.118.19.1242592120.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <66C6BA04EBCF4B6DAED69E851627D852@us.oracle.com> <87eiue83i7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87my92dmdt.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87eiudewtq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <831vqdubqy.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243283015 29819 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2009 20:23:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 25 22:23:27 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M8ghi-0003rm-Na for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 22:23:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37124 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M8ghh-0000Tx-Os for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 16:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M8ggG-00080y-9D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 16:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M8ggE-0007yl-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 16:21:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59462 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M8ggE-0007yf-1K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 16:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]:46492) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M8ggB-0004OU-EA; Mon, 25 May 2009 16:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout7.012.net.il by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KK700500U1FNM00@i-mtaout7.012.net.il>; Mon, 25 May 2009 23:21:49 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.115.215]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KK700FL8V8AA700@i-mtaout7.012.net.il>; Mon, 25 May 2009 23:21:46 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111086 Archived-At: > From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" > CC: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:16:22 -0400 > > Pretest is not for changing the default behavior. They are for > fixing bugs before the release. > > And people have found that this is a bug, so they are voicing their > objections again, since they were ignored last time. A deliberate change in behavior is not a bug, as long as the only objection is "I don't like it".