From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11566: 24.0.97; `read-from-minibuffer': focus to standalone minibuffer frame? Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 22:47:21 +0300 Message-ID: <83y5oa22ie.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6A40227DCFBF427491B710A473E45744@us.oracle.com> <4FC22A8D.6040801@gmx.at> <8D43F91B0096402A9BCA59FE13513358@us.oracle.com> <4FC49A24.7000403@gmx.at> <96A3CCDD100E49C6ACF2739484C9239A@us.oracle.com> <838vgb2dr1.fsf@gnu.org> <9A9A32EAE9D64B438EDA74E1F3F488FE@us.oracle.com> <831um32azg.fsf@gnu.org> <4AFBBDB704B34BB18E08E02CE02AD58B@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338320931 24251 80.91.229.3 (29 May 2012 19:48:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11566@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 29 21:48:49 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSPK-0001Bw-NL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 21:48:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57996 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSPK-0007Q7-Ei for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:48:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSPH-0007Px-IE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:48:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSPF-0005Uy-OD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:48:39 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39226) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSPF-0005Uu-Kp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:48:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSQb-0007MI-SJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:50:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11566 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11566-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11566.133832094828211 (code B ref 11566); Tue, 29 May 2012 19:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2012 19:49:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSPk-0007Kx-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:61957) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSPO-0007Jk-3V for 11566@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M4S00400URHXW00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 11566@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:47:14 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M4S004H2UYQQV50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:47:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4AFBBDB704B34BB18E08E02CE02AD58B@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60480 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , <11566@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:15:51 -0700 > > > > In something like `select-frame-set-input-focus', my > > > interpretation was that frame selection was related to the > > > border highlighting and setting input focus > > > was related to receiving keyboard input. AFAIK, > > > `select-frame' does the former, but `select-frame-set-input-focus' > > > is needed to get the latter. > > > > On Windows, at least with the default setup, selecting a frame also > > grabs focus. So these two functions do the same. > > No, definitely not with my (non-default) setup. Selecting a frame does not give > it the input focus. Not even in "emacs -Q"? IOW, is this an Emacs setup issue, or a Windows setup issue? > Hence my need to call `select-frame-set-input-focus' in a few places. And, I > would guess, hence the existence of two different functions: `select-frame' and > `s-f-s-i-f'. My guess is that they exist because on X the situation is quite different: X defaults (or at least used to) to "pointer to focus", not "click to focus". > I'm no expert on any of this, obviously. Unfortunately, neither am I. I just read a bit about this for the last few days, because apparently no one else wanted to work on bug #11513.