From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r111840: Port documentation to Texinfo 5.0. Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:35:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83y5ehms5a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87txp6ytgg.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <83621lo9zl.fsf@gnu.org> <51265ACA.9000706@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361471743 27847 80.91.229.3 (21 Feb 2013 18:35:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bzg@altern.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 19:36:05 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U8b01-0000FL-3s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:36:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38319 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8azg-0003BQ-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:35:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8aza-0003BE-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:35:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8azW-0002Tq-Kg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:35:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:41617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8azW-0002Sl-D0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:35:34 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIL00K00243XM00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:35:32 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIL00KLX2B4SJ80@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:35:28 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <51265ACA.9000706@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157239 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:35:06 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: Bastien , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > By the way, Texinfo 5.0 is *way* slower, so you probably don't want > to upgrade Texinfo unless you've got a fast machine. On my last-year's > desktop (AMD Phenom II X4 910e) it takes over 3 minutes of CPU time > to make Emacs's info files. It took 5 minutes on a Core Duo, and 3 min on a Core i7 (vs 6 sec with makeinfo 4.13). > See the thread starting at > . Very sad. I keep the v4.13a makeinfo around (and renamed the v5.0 to 'makeinfo5'). Btw, I think this fixing of the manuals should have been done on the release branch, because users _will_ try building the manuals with Texinfo 5 when Emacs 24.3 is released.