From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15576: 24.3.50; Some minor issues regarding the new TTY menus Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:26:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83y562p4wo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83zjqip7o4.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381350435 4282 80.91.229.3 (9 Oct 2013 20:27:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: control@debbugs.gnu.org, 15576@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 09 22:27:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0Ll-0004VZ-VU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:27:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43799 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0Ll-00030M-Gc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:27:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0Lc-0002yH-Ng for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:27:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0LW-0007C8-Ra for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0LW-0007C4-Nf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0LW-0000Cf-7V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 20:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15576 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15576-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15576.1381350386715 (code B ref 15576); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 20:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15576) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2013 20:26:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0Ku-0000BQ-Uo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:26:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:55985) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VU0Ks-0000BE-Km; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MUF002004NAPA00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:26:20 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MUF0026S4RWN320@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:26:20 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79122 Archived-At: severity 15576 wishlist thanks > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:11:48 +0200 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: 15576@debbugs.gnu.org > > I think "Select Buffer" is wrong simply because it is different from > "Buffers". I mean, what is the point of showing one text (Buffers) > when the menu is not selected, and another text (Select Buffer) when > it is? I don't know. Perhaps someone thought of this as a prompt. Anyway, the way to change that is in menu-bar.el, where the menu is constructed. > >> As you can see, the "elp" string at the right side looks weird. > > > > It doesn't look weird to me, but I'm used to this. > > ?? What sense does it make to show that residual "elp" string at the > right of the "Help" header? The same sense as does showing the text under the menu, which is also partially obscured. You seem to think about "Help" on the menu bar as part of the dropped menu. But it isn't: it is just part of the normal TTY frame display, like the text in the text area. They both are partially obscured by the menu. > > Try clicking the > > mouse on the menu bar, somewhere within the "Help" string, and you > > will see that the menu is dropped where the mouse clicks, not > > necessarily where the "Help" is. > > The mouse doesn't work here (on a TTY session). I thought you were on Windows. If not, try there, the mouse should work for dropping menus. > >> 3. From a GUI session, disable menu-bar-mode and type F10. I see that > >> the old text mode menu is shown. Why not show the new drop-down text > >> menu instead? > > > > Because the code for the new drop-down text menu will not work in the > > GUI session. The internals of the display engine which the menu code > > piggy-backs are completely different in the GUI mode. > > That's a pity. It would be nice to have those drop-down text menus > also on GUI sessions. Then consider this point a feature request then > (who knows, perhaps some day it might be implemented). > > > I tend to close this as not-a-bug. Any reasons not to? > > See above, but you are the maintainer, so you decide. Well, you have wishlist now. Volunteers are welcome to implement those changes.