From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Inhibit "Wrote foo" from write-region Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:25:15 +0200 Message-ID: <83y525cv90.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k3dte17j.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> <83siseekd4.fsf@gnu.org> <83mwimefmu.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390573508 14169 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2014 14:25:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lunaryorn@gmail.com, tromey@redhat.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Johan Andersson Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 24 15:25:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6hh3-00057W-ML for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:25:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46804 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6hh3-0001Rz-9o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:25:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6hgw-0001Mw-Cg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:25:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6hgo-0005rD-QK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:25:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:37708) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6hgo-0005qu-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:24:58 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZW00N00T4PRJ00@mtaout24.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:24:41 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZW00FFHTD5QX90@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:24:41 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.180 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169010 Archived-At: > From: Johan Andersson > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:34:56 +0100 > Cc: Sebastian Wiesner , tromey@redhat.com, > Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel > > > In general, given behavior that is old enough, you can be sure that someone, > somewhere relies on it. > > Is it a documented API? If it is, it is probably the worst "API" in the > history of software and should be deprecated and removed. If it's not, just > remove it and be done with it. If you rely on that sort of output, it's > really your own fault and people can change their code. That'd be harsh on users. There should be a very good reason to be that harsh. > I really really hate that Emacs prints messages when it really shouldn't. It did so since time immemoriam. And a solution to override that was already proposed. So I'm not sure why we are still arguing.