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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 21472@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp	strings
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:26:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y4g77io1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F83FDF.2070202@cs.ucla.edu>

> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 08:57:19 -0700
> 
> Although the manual was correct as it was, it could be written to avoid the need 
> for the quotes, and this should help avoid confusion like the problem Drew 
> reported.  I went through the Emacs, Elisp, and Elisp intro manuals looking for 
> this sort of problem and fixed the ones that I found in commit 
> ef7dbdf5873bf0a1f3f0e64e5d019e74d5b15b9e.

After looking through these changes, I must say I don't like too many
of them.  Phrases like "foo (or “bar”)" now lost their quotes, which
makes them less correct English-wise, AFAIK.  Even worse, we lost
quotes in phrases like "foo (a.k.a. “bar”).  This sentence:

  On a decentralized version control system, push changes from the
  current branch to another location.

where "push" was quoted, is now reads like incorrect English ("push"
is not a noun here).  Likewise here:

  The external border is normally not shown on fullboth and mazimized
  frames.

Previously, "fullboth", which is not a word, was quoted to indicate
that it's not a real word.

Many places have a quoted text replaced by @dfn, although there's no
terminology here that we describe or index.

Etc., etc. -- I think a large portion of these changes goes too far,
and replaces perfectly correct English with less correct one.

I think most of these changes should be reverted.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-15 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-13 15:45 bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings Drew Adams
2015-09-13 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-13 21:11   ` Drew Adams
2015-09-14  6:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-14 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-15 15:57 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 16:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 16:22     ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 23:48       ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15 16:26   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-09-15 19:15     ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 23:48       ` Drew Adams
2015-09-16  6:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16  7:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16  7:48         ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 10:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 23:48     ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15 23:48   ` Drew Adams
2015-09-16  7:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16  7:49       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 10:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 15:31           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 17:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 18:27               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 18:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 20:31                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17  4:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-17  5:21                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17  6:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-17  7:21                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17  7:35                             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <<831tdz8yf8.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-15 23:48     ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<c7ebc07d-51c9-4d10-9238-d42b0b3845b7@default>
     [not found] ` <<83vbbe9j7k.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<661f3a80-cdaf-47f0-a096-4be744409150@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83pp1la58d.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-14 13:51       ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15  0:21         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <<55F83FDF.2070202@cs.ucla.edu>
     [not found]   ` <<3aa1fafa-ed4d-4935-8a3e-cae7d0842c5f@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83r3ly7rpd.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-16 15:16       ` Drew Adams

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