From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 f8208b6: Document the user-level features of the Xref package Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: <83y4bwlril.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160109191428.26341.44105@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <5691C9D2.7080905@yandex.ru> <83egdpmo1j.fsf@gnu.org> <56929D6F.2050508@yandex.ru> <834melmfa4.fsf@gnu.org> <5692B1E0.8010100@yandex.ru> <831t9pma4e.fsf@gnu.org> <5692C91D.7040509@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452483195 15965 80.91.229.3 (11 Jan 2016 03:33:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 03:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 11 04:33:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aITED-00065G-6A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:33:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51062 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aITEC-0005tR-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aITE9-0005s3-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aITE5-0005y3-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aITE5-0005xz-PV; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:01 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1697 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aITE5-0007oV-79; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:33:01 -0500 In-reply-to: <5692C91D.7040509@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:11:57 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198008 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:11:57 +0300 > > On 01/10/2016 11:51 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Can you propose an alternative conceptual framework for the user > > manual, wrt to backends and the features described in this section? > > Before I try answering this, please confirm that you've already read my > brief attempt at doing it, here: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00695.html > > Starting with "I'd prefer something like". Of course, I read it. > Is it at all relevant to what you want to see in response? It talks about stuff way below the level that I'm talking about. It describes the details of the implementation, something that doesn't help at all at the conceptual level. > You haven't replied to the "dired-specific version of this command" part > of that email either. Any work towards making xref more complete is welcome. But that's tangential to the main issue at hand here.