From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25548: 25.1; Wrong Emacs version for Emacs 25.1.2 (?) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 09:41:38 +0200 Message-ID: <83y3xx0x1p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <7901d1e7-e41f-4877-a1bb-6b059d10f39a@default> <38cc5265-9e0f-433b-bb6e-02f371006061@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485503002 7573 195.159.176.226 (27 Jan 2017 07:43:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25548@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 27 08:43:17 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1Bg-0000nU-D1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 08:43:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43187 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1Bh-0006Ej-7b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:43:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1Ba-0006E9-5D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1BW-0000e7-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:43:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1BW-0000e0-0s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:43:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1BV-0003VY-Ly for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:43:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25548 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25548-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25548.148550292213413 (code B ref 25548); Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2017 07:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1AX-0003UH-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:42:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46005) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1AW-0003To-DS for 25548@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:42:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1AN-0000Jj-CG for 25548@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:41:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1AN-0000Jf-95; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:41:51 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3953 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cX1AM-0008EN-9E; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:41:50 -0500 In-reply-to: <38cc5265-9e0f-433b-bb6e-02f371006061@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:30:58 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:128642 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:30:58 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 25548@debbugs.gnu.org > > > It's 25.1-2, that is a second release of version 25.1. The first one > > was compiled without optimization. > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-11/msg00293.html > > Sorry, but I still don't understand. What's the difference between > 25.1-2 and 25.1.2? They are builds of the same codebase with different compiler options. > Do both 25.1-1 (whatever/wherever that is) and 25.1-2 correspond to > 25.1.1? They both correspond to 25.1. There's no 25.1.1 release; 25.1.1 is build #1 of the 25.1 release. > Where does a user see the version number 25.1-2 (or whatever kind of > number it is, if it is not a version number)? It's not a version number. It's a name of the zip file, and was give "-2" to distinguish it from the original upload. > How, from Emacs itself, does a user tell the difference between > 25.1-1 and 25.1-2? The value of system-configuration-options should be different. > These were the zip files downloaded, respectively: > > emacs-25.1-x86_64-mingw32.zip > emacs-25.1-2-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip > > What does a user (or code) look for within Emacs, to tell the difference? See above. > And are these releases? Release candidates? Pretest builds? These are releases. Pretests have a 4-field versions, like 25.1.91.2. Release candidates have "RC" in the name of the zip file. > How to know? See the node "Version Info" in the ELisp manual. > Is all this supposed to be clear to users? This information is not necessarily of importance for users. It is important in bug reports, which is why report-emacs-bug includes it. But inquisitive users can find the information in the Emacs manuals. > At the mirrors where you download these things there is no > description/explanation. (They don't even tell you what the > difference is between zips x86 and i86.) The explanations you are looking for are in the README file that is right near the zip archives. > I realize that building and uploading Emacs for Windows is a volunteer > effort, and I'm grateful for it. But can we perhaps make the zip naming > clearer? Did you read the README file?