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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: package.el strings
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 15:52:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y3rpeubc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F0133918-849D-4C5D-8BCD-3001FB3B68F5@gmail.com> (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:53:51 +0900)

> From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:53:51 +0900
> 
> It took me a lot longer than I thought but here is a diff for your comments. There is a dozen modifications in the file and a few comments.

Thanks for working in this.  I have a few comments:

> @@ -1490,7 +1492,7 @@ package-import-keyring
>        (setf (epg-context-home-directory context) package-gnupghome-dir))
>      (message "Importing %s..." (file-name-nondirectory file))
>      (epg-import-keys-from-file context file)
> -    (message "Importing %s...done" (file-name-nondirectory file))))
> +    (message "Importing %s... Done" (file-name-nondirectory file))))

Can you tell why this is needed?  The current code is how we say this
in a lot of places, and I don't think I see why it's bad for l10n.

> -               (format "%s packages will be installed:\n%s, proceed?"
> +               (format "Number of packages to install: %s (%s), proceed? "
>                         (length available)
> -                       (mapconcat #'symbol-name available ", ")))
> +                       (mapconcat #'symbol-name available " ")))

You've removed the newline, so the prompt will wrap at some random
place.  Is it really a good idea?

Also, I'd lose the "Number" part, and use %d for format, so it's clear
to translators that a number will follow.

> -        (message "%s packages are not available (the rest already installed), maybe you need to `M-x package-refresh-contents'"
> +        (message "Number of packages that are not available: %s (the rest is already installed), maybe you need to `M-x package-refresh-contents'"

Likewise here: I'd say "Packages not available: %d".  Same issue with
some other replacements you propose.

> -                 (format "%s packages will be deleted:\n%s, proceed? "
> +                 (format "Number of packages to delete: %s (%s), proceed? "
>                     (length removable)
> -                   (mapconcat #'symbol-name removable ", ")))
> +                   (mapconcat #'symbol-name removable " ")))

And here.

> -    (prin1 name)
> -    (princ " is ")
> -    (princ (if (memq (aref status 0) '(?a ?e ?i ?o ?u)) "an " "a "))
> -    (princ status)
> -    (princ " package.\n\n")
> +    (let ((sentence (format "The status of package %S is `%s'.\n\n" name status)))
> +    (princ sentence))

Too wordy for my liking.  How about this:

  (princ (format "Package %S is %s.\n\n" name status))

> -   (concat
> -    (when delete "Delete ")
> -    (package-menu--list-to-prompt delete)
> -    (when (and delete install)
> -      (if upgrade "; " "; and "))
> -    (when install "Install ")
> -    (package-menu--list-to-prompt install)
> -    (when (and upgrade (or install delete)) "; and ")
> -    (when upgrade "Upgrade ")
> -    (package-menu--list-to-prompt upgrade)
> -    "? ")))
> +   (format "Number of packages to delete: %s / install: %s / upgrade: %s, proceed? "
> +	   (package-menu--list-to-prompt delete)
> +	   (package-menu--list-to-prompt install)
> +	   (package-menu--list-to-prompt upgrade))))

This loses the feature of saying just what's needed, instead of
showing zero.  Can we do better?



  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-15 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-24  5:08 package.el strings Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-24 11:00 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-24 12:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-05-24 12:07   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-05-24 12:36   ` Yuri Khan
2017-05-24 14:16   ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-14  2:53 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-15 12:52   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-07-15 14:48     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-16 13:55       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-16 14:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-16 14:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-16 14:37         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-17 15:28       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-22  9:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-18  6:38           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-04-26  1:10             ` Noam Postavsky
2018-04-26  6:31               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-04-26 11:28                 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-04-26 13:32                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-04-28 22:11                     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-04-28 23:46                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-05-29 22:38                         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-29 22:46                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-17 14:02                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-17 14:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-17 14:45                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-17 14:50                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-17 14:58                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-20 13:53                                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-20 15:54                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-20 16:19                                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-24 15:37                                           ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 21:57                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-24 23:09                                               ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-25  1:39                                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-25 23:22                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-27  4:21                                                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-27 18:32                                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-04-29 19:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-26 13:40               ` Jean-Christophe Helary

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