From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] scratch/widen-less a4ba846: Replace prog-widen with consolidating widen calls Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 18:41:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83y3mduq8y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20171129233237.27462.23351@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20171201223529.GG3840@ACM> <4a94ec5c-efdd-50f1-ff4d-277f5f45c2df@yandex.ru> <83lgil1qme.fsf@gnu.org> <83d13x1j2s.fsf@gnu.org> <34abea95-c7f7-e8fa-8407-8c2fd2a4cfe1@yandex.ru> <83y3mkzw1n.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv2zzv7z.fsf@gnu.org> <83r2saxyj1.fsf@gnu.org> <83efoaxv0c.fsf@gnu.org> <57382399-5efa-655f-e374-fbe1ef9d89aa@yandex.ru> <27732BB8-B3B7-4489-963E-A09333026A8E@gnu.org> <43ec332a-4de5-d3ce-1bc2-60b081447f77@yandex.ru> <6A58664C-42E7-48E4-BB90-0488FED4A7FD@gnu.org> <75360721-62e7-37aa-f623-4b7eac8d4fbe@yandex.ru> <6bfba3e0-10db-b1fd-0ecc-3eb9771b4443@yandex.ru> <97EC48DB-DA8E-45BD-9ACF-D0B978408F8C@gnu.org> <2c37e1ea-69cd-2125-486b-71ea76f23bd0@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512751327 9823 195.159.176.226 (8 Dec 2017 16:42:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 08 17:42:01 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNLir-0002NX-E2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:42:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNLiy-00022d-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:42:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52556) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNLiO-00022L-2v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:41:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNLiN-0005Id-EL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:41:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNLiI-0005Dl-J7; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:41:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3454 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eNLiH-00079m-QN; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:41:26 -0500 In-reply-to: <2c37e1ea-69cd-2125-486b-71ea76f23bd0@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:36:16 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220792 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:36:16 +0200 > > On 12/6/17 11:28 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > My point is that this aspect of the design should be discussed before we make the code changes. > > Let's go ahead and discuss it then? Not with me, with everyone else. I already described my doubts. I will start a new thread about this, I think this issue all but drowned in this long discussion, and I'd expect some people to avoid reading it. > > (I think this aspect is separate from the rest of MMM related > discussions.) > > Not exactly separate. My proposal hinges on it somewhat. In particular, > on the idea that all major modes should be treated the same in this respect. The separate issue is to widen unconditionally. I could probably agree to have these functions widen when MMM-like mode is active.