From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29766: 25.3; REGRESSION, Dired on MS Windows, switches -alF Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:50:27 +0200 Message-ID: <83y3lyo5to.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<<<52375503-be26-49ea-9d31-9926a125c0db@default>>>> <<<<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>>>> <<<07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default>>> <<<83ind3pfez.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<1ca5954e-224c-4bce-b70b-8d3fece8d7fd@default>> <<83efnqputp.fsf@gnu.org>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513712956 23055 195.159.176.226 (19 Dec 2017 19:49:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 19:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 29766@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 19 20:49:12 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNt0-0005W8-Bf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:49:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34444 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNuy-0000nO-QV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:51:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48301) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNus-0000mh-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:51:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNuo-0003eD-4O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:51:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:34001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNuo-0003e4-0V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNun-0005R1-PY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:51:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 19:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29766 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 29766-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29766.151371303020853 (code B ref 29766); Tue, 19 Dec 2017 19:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29766) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2017 19:50:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42682 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNuI-0005QH-5q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:50:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56214) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNuE-0005Pw-Lk for 29766@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:50:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNu5-0002tB-G1 for 29766@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:50:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNu5-0002sx-D2; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:50:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2570 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eRNu4-0002QI-KQ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:50:17 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:08:53 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141263 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:08:53 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 29766@debbugs.gnu.org > > > We already have plenty of such customization options > > in ls-lisp.el, had them for a long time. > > What option(s) in ls-lisp.el correspond to such an alist? What alist and for which purpose? You never explained that. ls-lisp has the following options to adapt it to various styles: ls-lisp-emulation ls-lisp-ignore-case ls-lisp-use-string-collate ls-lisp-UCA-like-collation ls-lisp-dirs-first ls-lisp-verbosity ls-lisp-support-shell-wildcards ls-lisp-format-time-list ls-lisp-use-localized-time-format > I don't see any. And if there is already such an option, > let alone plenty of them, then why did we add > `ls-lisp-use-string-collate'? I don't see how an alist could replace ls-lisp-use-string-collate.