From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: EMACS=t Joy and Happiness Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 10:41:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83y3g6984k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tvqw4w8s.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6443412a-5803-d9c0-1ef3-ece7f49c43e1@cs.ucla.edu> <8897E590-091D-4822-A3E8-9D1889E16995@scratch.space> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527320403 13248 195.159.176.226 (26 May 2018 07:40:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 07:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Van L Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 26 09:39:59 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMTny-0003HF-Nf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 09:39:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMTq4-0008EJ-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 03:42:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57137) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMTpT-0008ED-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 03:41:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMTpQ-0008CG-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 03:41:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59183) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMTpQ-0008CC-Jo; Sat, 26 May 2018 03:41:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3337 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fMTpP-0005Rh-Sc; Sat, 26 May 2018 03:41:28 -0400 In-reply-to: <8897E590-091D-4822-A3E8-9D1889E16995@scratch.space> (message from Van L on Sat, 26 May 2018 10:17:02 +1000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225746 Archived-At: > From: Van L > Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 10:17:02 +1000 > Cc: Emacs-Devel devel > > I was upset by the idea of paying more to not upgrade. I guess you never had the experience of upgrading a system in a production-type environments, with a large number of users, each of whom has their specific requirements and packages that need to continue running smoothly.