From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 16:22:15 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y3eni3js.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0vzfd5t.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Sat, 07 Jul 2018 14:22:54 +0200)
> From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 14:22:54 +0200
>
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2018 09:15:32 +0200 martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> wrote:
>
> >>> And the users who have made such a setting don't need the
> >>> defaults to change anyway.
> >>
> >> No, but it's the new users who would benefit.
> >
> > Shouldn't new users face such changes with major releases only?
>
> Since this is a security-related change, it depends on the maintainers'
> judgment of the risks (both of making the change and of not making it).
When making these judgment calls, are we allowed to apply the same
principle as you did, namely that the current situation "has been
tested for at least five years", and therefore we can conclude that no
urgent change is needed?
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2018-06-22 22:00 A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-22 22:43 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-22 23:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-22 23:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 1:35 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 10:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 10:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 10:48 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 11:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 11:55 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 12:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 15:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 12:45 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 12:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-05 13:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 15:29 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 19:26 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-05 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 17:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-06 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 18:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 10:30 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 20:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 20:45 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-06 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 23:08 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-07 12:18 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 13:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 15:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 23:46 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-08 0:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-08 2:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-07 14:32 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 15:15 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 15:39 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 18:16 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 23:03 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 23:45 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-05 13:50 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 15:30 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-05 16:05 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-06 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 0:00 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-23 0:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-23 9:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 2:17 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-23 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 10:21 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 22:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 14:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 14:48 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 16:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 17:10 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 18:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 21:30 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 1:25 ` Van L
2018-06-25 2:28 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 2:38 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:25 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 18:06 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 20:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 21:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 22:47 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 0:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 0:33 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-25 0:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 21:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 21:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 16:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 16:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 17:08 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-30 17:40 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 16:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:20 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-05 15:52 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 15:58 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 16:36 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 16:51 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 18:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 18:43 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-05 20:31 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-08 11:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 15:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 8:36 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:35 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 12:52 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:45 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-06 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 13:50 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-07 7:15 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-07 12:22 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-07 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-07-07 13:47 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-08 8:11 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-05 15:10 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-23 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 10:34 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 15:58 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 19:20 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-05 20:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-06 6:42 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:28 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 18:06 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 18:48 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 9:36 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-07 9:59 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 10:01 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 21:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-07 21:59 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 22:11 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 23:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 18:20 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-10 18:40 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 20:50 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-14 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 17:18 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-14 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 22:13 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 13:09 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-09 13:33 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 13:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-09 13:49 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:24 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 0:06 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-10 0:03 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-10 0:02 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-06 13:03 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 21:24 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:54 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 15:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 16:56 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:06 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-08 17:25 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:54 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:32 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 22:56 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-08 17:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 18:12 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 18:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:22 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:17 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:36 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:38 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 18:10 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 18:47 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:31 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:09 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 15:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 16:35 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-08 18:31 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 18:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:28 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:16 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:58 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 15:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-06 16:53 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-06 23:11 ` Richard Stallman
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